Merchant: Why Mayweather vs Margarito never happened

[BoxingTech718]

Why are we even discussing this? Tony was cheating so thank god Mayweather or Pacquiao never faced him before he got busted.

[Rome-By-Ko]

FLOYD COULD HAVE FOUGHT THE GUYS YOU listed, but at the end of the day, when you look at the numbers coming in and you see an old fart that isnt even in the ring taking home more than you for doing nothing....... Yes some fans wanted margarito, but brian kenny tried to lambbast him for not fighting carlos baldomir. BUT AS WE SAW IT WAS EASY WORK. BRIAN KENNY IS ON ESPN, WHICH IS MAINSTREAM.... WHY DO YOU THINK AFTER ALL MARGARITO HAS A ACCOMPLISHED AT THAT TIME HE WASNT A HOUSEHOLD NAME, MAYBE IN CALIFORNIA AND MEXICO, BUT HE WAS NOT UTTERED OFF THE LIPS OF REALLY ANYONE ELSE. Go back and look at the people he was beating when he was # 1 at welterweight..... where are they now? I bet you can do a VH1 SPECIAL ON THEIR ASS, AND THEY WOULD BE BEST FRIENDS WITH GARY COLEMAN.

THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE. Thats the reason floyd is with golden boy promotions...

What you guys dont understand is for years people have been saying this guy will beat mayweather, and that guy, but when he dominates them, no matter who they are he gets flack, he cant please you rome, he cant really please anyone, he goes up in weight beats delahoya, at a weight he has never fought at and delahoya is comfortable at, and he gets ****. It will never be enough. He ducked shane, now as he stated with max kellerman "shanes not too old now" remember how he would never fight shane? he feared shane, well he walked through shane and the next day, people were saying blood work was the reason shane was weak, shane should retire etc. none of them noticed the pull counters snapping shanes damn head back, or that body shot shane was hit with, or those straight rights...
NO ONE NOTICED THAT SHANE WAS SIMPLY NERVOUS! HIS DAMN SHOULDERS WERE TENSE AS HELL! ALL they saw was domination, and shane simply struggling not to get dropped. I remember screaming at the tv, "SHANE STOP HOLDING SO YOU CAN GET YORU ASS KNOCKED OUT!"

so look at it from floyds point of view.....

what does he have to prove? what would you ahve to prove rome? if every fight there is an excuse that you dominate??

CAUSE YOU ARE JUST THAT DAMN GOOD......

Good post.You know why Kenny told Floyd to fight Baldy it had nothing to do with Baldy's skill.The fight would be for Lineal tittle.I gave Floyd full credit for his win's over Mosley and Hoya but Baldy Hatton(Alway's like Hatton but he had no chance) and Judah come on.He had alot to prove at that time because these fighters were smoking and were natural WW.I agree with you on who Marga's beat lol that was funny too the line about Gary Coleman was classic.But once again styles make fights and marga's was was a big fighter who throws punches from crazy angles some of those punches would have landed.I just don't see him having a esy fight with Marga's.There is always something to prove at that point he did not prove it imo at WW.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

I have to agree with most of this, apart from calling Clottey a mediocre fighter. He has the skills to be elite, but he has the wrong mentality, which will always hold him back

I personally want Cotto to retire, hopefully he will after the Foreman fight.

Yeah cotto got a tough break.

A DAMN SHAME, ALL THE MORE REASON THAT I DONT WANT MARGARITO COMING BACK. HOW in the hell could you not know you have plaster??

there is only one way you wouldnt know you had plaster in yoru gloves, and thats if you always had plaster in yoru gloves!!!!!

ohhh ****!!

[Toney616]

good, but the point is that even with ali taking punishment he was taking that after his return from him being stripped, he couldnt be hit earlier in his career go look at his fight with liston (1st one) only after his legs started leaving him and he was with stronger guys did he start to get punished....

True, but guys who tend to rely heavily on their athletic abilities over technical abilities have short primes. Jones was on the slide by the Harmon fight, Nunn was on the slide by the time he moved to smw

leonard had a detached retina and in no way am I saying that floyds excuse is greater than leonards, but, when your hands are jacked up thats bad...... Floyd has bad hands, or actually they were just being wrapped wrong and too tight, so he would be landing hard shots that hurt him as the fight went on. Thats like bing an artist that is losing his sight.......

he had to let his body heal and recover, but he still did light work outs to stay in shape..

Fair enough

now as far as all time greats and floyd stated post fight after shane, " I DONT LIVE IN THEIR ERA, I LIVE IN MINE" You see who is really an ATG IN FLOYDS ERA? HONESTLY? ALL THE ONES THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT WERE OR COULD HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN DIMINISHED ALA' COTTO. WHO IS REALLY AN ALL TIME GREAT ON THE LEVEL OF DURAN, HEARNS, LEONARD, HAGLER ETC?

WANNA HEAR THE ANSWER???


NONE OF THEM ARE! THEY CANT COMPARE TO THAT ERA, BUT FLOYD CAN ONLY BEAT WHATS IN FRONT OF HIM. PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HIM NOT FIGHTING 2 FIGHTERS THAT HAVE DIMINISHED SOO MUCH IN THE LAST 2 YEARS!! ONE I think because he (COTTO) was abused by a cheater, and a cheater because he got caught cheating and could no longer use his secret weapon.

BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM PROPS FOR WHAT HE IS DOING......

You dont consider Pacquiao to be a ATG?

[Rome-By-Ko]

COTTO NOR MARGARITO WILL BE ATG'S ESPECIALLY MARGARITO FOR CHEATING.....

IN 20 years time, unless cotto is rejuvenated by emmanuel steward, hes done as well. Not saying he isnt good, but he isnt great. manny crushed him, he ran from shane, he was struggling with clottey, margarito demolished him..... hell he might get served JUNE 5, WHO KNOWS WHICH COTTO WILL SHOW UP.

MY POINT IS THAT DIDNT HURT HIS LEGACY BECAUSE WHEN YOUR CHILDREN ARE OLD ENOUGHT TO UNDERSTAND THEY WILL SEE COTTO FIGHTS OF HIM LOOKING LIKE THE ELEPHANT MAN, THEY WILL SEE MARGARITO GETTING KNOCKED OUT BY SHANE, THEY WILL SEE MARGARITO GETTING CAUGHT CHEATING... AND THEY WILL SEE FLOYD WITH A SWOLLEN EYE EVERY NOW AND AGAIN, COMFORTABLY WINNING FIGHTS......

THATS THE TRUTH.... They will wonder why people were saying he doged margarito when he beat the hell out shane who slaughtered margarito.

And a true boxing fan should tell umm because styles makes fights son/daughter.

[Toney616]

Yeah cotto got a tough break.

A DAMN SHAME, ALL THE MORE REASON THAT I DONT WANT MARGARITO COMING BACK. HOW in the hell could you not know you have plaster??

there is only one way you wouldnt know you had plaster in yoru gloves, and thats if you always had plaster in yoru gloves!!!!!

ohhh ****!!

The Margarito situation is a damning situation for boxing, lord knows how long his been doing that for. As for Cotto he has to spend the rest of his life wondering how many of his losses were legit or not.

[Toney616]

Why are we even discussing this? Tony was cheating so thank god Mayweather or Pacquiao never faced him before he got busted.

How long do you think his been doing that? Also I think Pacquaio will end up fighting Margarito instead of Mayweather now.

[Rome-By-Ko]

No I have to give you your props you didnt take anything from MAY, I agree you let it be known that he (mosley) was your favorite fighter and I honestly respect that. We are all wrong at times, but thats just how it is.

I just dont see margarito giving Floyd a hard time, but hey at the end of the day, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION AS WELL........

I could be wrong as well bro.

Damn you are a damn respectable poster one of the best Mayweather fan's who post here.You up there with my main man Chiefsec's that's saying alot.I have great respect for that man.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

True, but guys who tend to rely heavily on their athletic abilities over technical abilities have short primes. Jones was on the slide by the Harmon fight, Nunn was on the slide by the time he moved to smw

Fair enough

You dont consider Pacquiao to be a ATG?

HOW IS PACQUIAO AN ALL TIME GREAT ON THE LEVEL OF THE PEOPEL I MENTIONED?

HES AN ATG PROBABLY FOR HIS ERA (JUST AS FLOYD IS), BUT NOT TO BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME BREATH OF ANY FOUR OF THEM.

AND REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOYD FIGHTING ATGS, PACQUIAO JUST BECAME POPULAR ENOUGH TO EVEN BE TALKED ABOUT IN TEH REALM OF FLOYD AND THE ELITE.

* HE BEAT A DEHYDRATED OSCAR.

*A BRUSIED AND BATTERED COTTO AS EVEN YOU ADMITTED.

* AND A PREVIOUSLY CHIN CHECKED HATTON WHO WAS IN MY OPINION NEVER GOOD.

* MORALES WAS ON THE DECLINE. REMEMBER RAHEEM I think his name is beat the **** outta morales, yet pac didnt pursue the fight did he??

* hell when you mention catch-weight you cant not help but think about PAC. FIGHTING FOR BELTS AT CATCHWEIGHT IS NOT ATG STANDARDS.

BEATING PEOPLE 2 WEIGHT CLASSES ABOVE YOU TAKING THEIR BELTS IS.

IMO PAC IS GOOD. BUT WHEN DISSECT THE WINS, THERE IS NOT GREATNESS THERE. JUST AS DELAHOYA MADE A NAME OF BEATING OVER THE HILL FIGHTERS.

GETS BEAT UP AS WELL.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

And a true boxing fan should tell umm because styles makes fights son/daughter.

LOL TOUCHE'................

I see your point of view though.