Merchant: Why Mayweather vs Margarito never happened

[QADASHBANYAH1]

damn you are a damn respectable poster one of the best mayweather fan's who post here.you up there with my main man chiefsec's that's saying alot.i have great respect for that man.

i appreciate that....

[Ray*]

The Margarito situation is a damning situation for boxing, lord knows how long his been doing that for. As for Cotto he has to spend the rest of his life wondering how many of his losses were legit or not.

It would a travesty if we later found out in years to come that Pacquiao was indeed on some performance enhancing drug while he was fighting people like Cotto...That would be two fights against Cotto with a (?) around it.

[Rome-By-Ko]

To be honest no point of the fight now, Cotto IMO is done. He has been in too many wars against mediocre/tough fighters, He took too much punishment in winning the Judah fight, He struggled to a UD against Mosley with his stamina, He was plastered (?) in the Margarito fight and by the time he fought mediocre fighters like Clottey he was worn out, And Pacquiao finished anything he had IMO.

Unless Cotto destroys Foreman then beat one or two tougher names at 154 i really dont want to see him fight Mayweather, Another thing is even if Cotto beats foreman and another one of two fights at 154 all those fights would add to his mileage going into a Mayweather fight.

You are right here Cotto I respect him for fighting all the fights he did but it has taken it's toll.I believe he could beat some fighters still but a Mayweather not a chance.I don't think a fresh Cotto would beat Mayweather so this shop worn Cotto would be totally outclassed and flat out beat up.

[BoxingTech718]

How long do you think his been doing that? Also I think Pacquaio will end up fighting Margarito instead of Mayweather now.

Who really knows but isn't a little naive to think they only tried it one time before? Whether Marg knew what was being put in his wraps or not. They've been doing it for a long time for him not to realize his wraps felt different.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I have to agree with most of this, apart from calling Clottey a mediocre fighter. He has the skills to be elite, but he has the wrong mentality, which will always hold him back

I personally want Cotto to retire, hopefully he will after the Foreman fight.

I agree Clottey just finds a way to beat himself all the time.He does everything well not great but he has a lack of ball's can't teach that.

[Toney616]

HOW IS PACQUIAO AN ALL TIME GREAT ON THE LEVEL OF THE PEOPEL I MENTIONED?

HES AN ATG PROBABLY FOR HIS ERA (JUST AS FLOYD IS), BUT NOT TO BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME BREATH OF ANY FOUR OF THEM.

I can agree with this

AND REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOYD FIGHTING ATGS, PACQUIAO JUST BECAME POPULAR ENOUGH TO EVEN BE TALKED ABOUT IN TEH REALM OF FLOYD AND THE ELITE.

* HE BEAT A DEHYDRATED OSCAR.

Ive got to give Pacquaio full credit for that, Oscars only has himself to blame for his state

*A BRUSIED AND BATTERED COTTO AS EVEN YOU ADMITTED.

Cotto was on the slide, I also think he lost the Clottey fight as well

* AND A PREVIOUSLY CHIN CHECKED HATTON WHO WAS IN MY OPINION NEVER GOOD.

I agree with this as well

* MORALES WAS ON THE DECLINE. REMEMBER RAHEEM I think his name is beat the **** outta morales, yet pac didnt pursue the fight did he??

I dont give him much credit for those two wins, but he gets props for his two wins over Barerra and his win over JMM

* hell when you mention catch-weight you cant not help but think about PAC. FIGHTING FOR BELTS AT CATCHWEIGHT IS NOT ATG STANDARDS.

BEATING PEOPLE 2 WEIGHT CLASSES ABOVE YOU TAKING THEIR BELTS IS.

IMO PAC IS GOOD. BUT WHEN DISSECT THE WINS, THERE IS NOT GREATNESS THERE. JUST AS DELAHOYA MADE A NAME OF BEATING OVER THE HILL FIGHTERS.

GETS BEAT UP AS WELL.

How would you define a great fighter?

[Toney616]

I agree Clottey just finds a way to beat himself all the time.He does everything well not great but he has a lack of ball's can't teach that.

Maybe hypnosis, lol

I used to be a big fan of his as well, but after a while you start to notice things, like how he always finds a way to lose his big fights. I would like for him to do well, but I dont see that ever happening now

[Toney616]

Who really knows but isn't a little naive to think they only tried it one time before? Whether Marg knew what was being put in his wraps or not. They've been doing it for a long time for him not to realize his wraps felt different.

The thing I found most distrubing was the commisonner, who didnt even notice the wraps and allowed him to wrap his hands even though Naz wasnt there.

[Rome-By-Ko]

HOW IS PACQUIAO AN ALL TIME GREAT ON THE LEVEL OF THE PEOPEL I MENTIONED?

HES AN ATG PROBABLY FOR HIS ERA (JUST AS FLOYD IS), BUT NOT TO BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME BREATH OF ANY FOUR OF THEM.

AND REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOYD FIGHTING ATGS, PACQUIAO JUST BECAME POPULAR ENOUGH TO EVEN BE TALKED ABOUT IN TEH REALM OF FLOYD AND THE ELITE.

* HE BEAT A DEHYDRATED OSCAR.

*A BRUSIED AND BATTERED COTTO AS EVEN YOU ADMITTED.

* AND A PREVIOUSLY CHIN CHECKED HATTON WHO WAS IN MY OPINION NEVER GOOD.

* MORALES WAS ON THE DECLINE. REMEMBER RAHEEM I think his name is beat the **** outta morales, yet pac didnt pursue the fight did he??

* hell when you mention catch-weight you cant not help but think about PAC. FIGHTING FOR BELTS AT CATCHWEIGHT IS NOT ATG STANDARDS.

BEATING PEOPLE 2 WEIGHT CLASSES ABOVE YOU TAKING THEIR BELTS IS.

IMO PAC IS GOOD. BUT WHEN DISSECT THE WINS, THERE IS NOT GREATNESS THERE. JUST AS DELAHOYA MADE A NAME OF BEATING OVER THE HILL FIGHTERS.

GETS BEAT UP AS WELL.

IMHO Floyd is an top 25 atg.Pac is like a top 50to30 atg.Floyd has been fight at a higher level longer then Pac has been a bigger star longer then Pac and is undefeated.Floyd in my eyes is fighter of the decade but I do feel like Manny is an atg.I believe this version of Pac could compete with Duran Pryor some of the greats.Hearns and SRL would kill Pac untill he died from it lol.But I feel they beat and stop the Money Man too.

[Pullcounter]

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What do people here make of this?

floyd is a ducker. what else is new???