Bradley slams Khan, confirms Abregu date.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Yeah, we know Khan's talking about unifying belts, but he hasn't actually done it yet, or even fought that tricky mandatory first.

Well he isn't a duckling.

Bradley can't KO Khan, what it's been 2007 since a KO?

Then Bradley isn't a duck. Don't tell me about it, go tell the guy I was replying.

And since Bradley has heavily dropped and shook up guys with good chins, who's to say he can't stop Khan when Khan's punch-resistance is still an as yet unknown quantity?

Khan has a boxing chance with speed and range.

VS Maidana Khan could get KTFO anytime he gets hit.

Still a tough fight.

Style wise, Alex KO's Khan and can box him.

They all have july/august dates. Khan wants a tuner up.

Maidana injured. After that, in December, they can have a 4 man tourney, or 6 man with Ortiz/JMM

Dude, Schaefer wants Khan vs. Marquez-Diaz II winner for the Fall.


As for who wins what matchups, I've already done my breakdown on why Bradley would own Khan elsewhere, and I LOLLLLLED at the guys who said Khan had every advantage in the fight (except chin) and then proceeded to list only height, length, power and speed, like there's absolutely no other important tangibles or intangibles between those.

[Pension-Killer]

Yeah, we know Khan's talking about unifying belts, but he hasn't actually done it yet, or even fought that tricky mandatory first.





Then Bradley isn't a duck. Don't tell me about it, go tell the guy I was replying.

And since Bradley has heavily dropped and shook up guys with good chins, who's to say he can't stop Khan when Khan's punch-resistance is still an as yet unknown quantity?




Dude, Schaefer wants Khan vs. Marquez-Diaz II winner for the Fall.


As for who wins what matchups, I've already done my breakdown on why Bradley would own Khan elsewhere, and I LOLLLLLED at the guys who said Khan had every advantage in the fight (except chin) and then proceeded to list only height, length, power and speed, like there's absolutely no other important tangibles or intangibles between those.

Khan always wanted the big fights. Why you think he dropped Frank?

It's his first fight under GBp, and now he wants Miadana.

He has repeated it.

Shaefer wants ti in house perhaps then. I want Khan to face Maidana and so does he.

I never said Bradley is a duck, but Khan isn't a ducklign non the less, with or without bradley and what Bradley does.

Bradley has a different style and I don't feel can KO khan who i feel has a better body to take a punch now.

I said Bradley is the best in the division, but he looks bad talking about money.

Khan got flamed for Miadana and money.

[BetterCallSaul]

Bradley's been walking the walk for 2 years, though - Khan, and this is the truth, has been exclusively fighting guys who were selected for safety these last 18 months, so when he appears to hesitate at taking on the first dangerman who appears in his path, of course it means more than Bradley trying to maneuver the best deal possible for a fight with his main rival for dominance at JWW. See how way that fight is being looked at now, it's a genuine mouth-waterer, 2 supreme young American talents, both hungry and fired-up and determined as hell to do big things, real rivalry, it's a BIG one in terms of what it's perceived to mean to the division, so Bradley and his peeps want to make the highest coin possible off it, make the reward as near to the magnitude of the fight as possible. Of course Alexander's team will chase to make the fight right now, because they want Bradley's #1 spot. But seperate star-quality from actual body of work, and Khan just hasn't paid the kind of dues Bradley's paid, and as you keep correctly pointing out Maidana is Khan's mandatory so he should be fighting him anyway.

It's more hypocritical to not give Bradley some benefit of the doubt that his reasons for appearing to stall on Alexander are genuine and not just some ducking tactic. Bradley is an unshakeably determined young dude, I really don't think he has any doubt that he can beat Alexander. He just wants to get paid equal to what he feels the fight represents to the JWW division.




Hey, timbs, how's about this for a deal?,

if Khan fights any of these guns in his division after his projected July date -- Maidana, Bradley, Alexander, even a Urango or a Holt or a Kaizer Mabuza or a Lamont Peterson, hell, even a Herman Ngoudjo -- I'll be an accomplice to you in boosting him and supporting him in the build-ups and throughout any and all of those fights.

Obviously, if he fought Marquez I couldn't root for him in that fight. But you say he's not gonna do that - so World Peace and Good Times are coming, right?

I'll admit that Bradley has put more work in at the weight than Khan has during the past couple of years, but it's pretty easy to pick holes in his list of opposition. With exception to Peterson, the rest of Bradley's recent wins have came against mediocre or old opponents. The same can be said of Khan. What I'm getting at is, there isn't a lot to seperate the top 3 in the LWW division. No one should be given the benefit of the doubt over the other. The fans are demanding the fights they want to see. That means Khan - Maidana, and Bradley - Alexander.

Khan wants to make the highest amount of coin possible too. He and Maidana are still relatively unknown in the U.S. More so 6 months ago. But Khan was still heavily criticised for choosing to fight Mallignaggi rather than his mandatory opponent. I don't see the same criticism being aimed at Bradley for not fighting the opponent most fans regard as the number 2 in the division. I don't believe that Bradley is so far ahead of the other top guys at LWW that he has the right to delay big fights until they make financial sense for himself. If other fighters get criticised for the same reasons, then Bradley shouldn't be free from similar criticism. I don't believe that Bradley is 'ducking' Alexanda. But he realises the risk involved, and isn't willing to step in the ring with him at the present moment. It may not be ducking, but it certainly isn't a brave act.

And your last passage is fair enough. If Khan fights Marquez and win, I won't be giving him too much credit too.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

'I'd like to thank God, praise God, blah blah blah.'

Whenever a fighter goes all bible basher it turns me off them - even as a commited catholic. A boxing ring is not the place for it.

This is why Tim Bradley is more than likely a bonafide wanker. Especially after an interview like this castigating Khan amongst other things - how Christian of him.

He's a phony.

Even when he done that interview about how he still works in his garage I read in boxing news or one of them. 'People come in and say how comes you work in here you're the champ.' Puke, puke, puke.

I hope somebody knocks him off. Not a fan.

It personally really grates me.

Specifically thanking God for victory.

The hell?


Bradley's a great kid. When did we start bringing fighters' faith in to discussions as a stick to beat them with? What if Khan started thanking Allah after fights, does that make him a prick? How about his cronies misrepresenting Islam in NYC, does that make him a phoney?


You know a bunch of people basically hate Khan just because he's a ******, right? Nothing rubs certain scared, ignorant people up like Islam does.

But talking about that **** is dumb, right? So Bradley's Bible-thumping shouldn't be brought up, either. Personally, I enjoyed it when he got up on the ring post in Nottingham, pounding his chest and yelling "IN JESUS' NAME!! IN JESUS' NAME!!" at the pissed-off crowd - that zealousness and lack of being cowed by that hostile scene gave you a lot of insight into Bradley's determined character.


You Khan guys are strange - you're even nitpicking over that now.

[Chunk..]

It personally really grates me.

Specifically thanking God for victory.

Haha, tis annoying. ''I'd like to thank god, everyone down the Dog and Duck, Pat from the Jobcentre and me mum for dropping me off at the airport.''

[Davros?]

The hell?


Bradley's a great kid. When did we start bringing fighters' faith in to discussions as a stick to beat them with? What if Khan started thanking Allah after fights, does that make him a prick? How about his cronies misrepresenting Islam in NYC, does that make him a phoney?


You know a bunch of people basically hate Khan just because he's a ******, right? Nothing rubs certain scared, ignorant people up like Islam does.

But talking about that **** is dumb, right? So Bradley's Bible-thumping shouldn't be brought up, either. Personally, I enjoyed it when he got up on the ring post in Nottingham, pounding his chest and yelling "IN JESUS' NAME!! IN JESUS' NAME!!" at the pissed-off crowd - that zealousness and lack of being cowed by that hostile scene gave you a lot of insight into Bradley's determined character.


You Khan guys are strange - you're even nitpicking over that now.

Yeah i dont get the sudden hate for Bradley it seems to have suddenly come up after the Khan win, I am no Khan fan but i dont hate the guy.

[PittyPat]

I like it when fighters keep their faith to themselves, or don't go around overtly praising their man in the sky. Mayweather says the usual line, but that's it; Holyfield, after the first Tyson fight, went overboard to the point of puke-worthiness. Khan's gone about it just the right way so far - it makes him different to Hamed, who took it to ridiculous levels.

Then again, allow me to refer to an earlier post of mine which puts a more humorous twist on things...

More wacky religions in boxing, please!

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Khan always wanted the big fights. Why you think he dropped Frank?

It's his first fight under GBp, and now he wants Miadana.

He has repeated it.

Shaefer wants ti in house perhaps then. I want Khan to face Maidana and so does he.

I never said Bradley is a duck, but Khan isn't a ducklign non the less, with or without bradley and what Bradley does.

Bradley has a different style and I don't feel can KO khan who i feel has a better body to take a punch now.

I said Bradley is the best in the division, but he looks bad talking about money.

Khan got flamed for Miadana and money.

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I'm not attacking Khan personally, I've defended his heart and willingness to get in with anybody in the past on this forum (back when few were arguing when Khan was accused of having no heart), so let's not waste time on that. I'm saying that talking about fighting Maidana doesn't mean anything if you end up acquiescing to the wants of people like Richard Schaefer and fighting Marquez instead. I think that's what's gonna happen.

As I've said a bunch of times, if the Khan-Maidana fight gets made for the fall - WAR KHAN!!!!!!!!!!


I know you didn't say Bradley is a duck, I said tell it to the other guy who did, because the 'duckling' comment was made in that context. Follow the exchange you're quoting, P-K.



It's cool to think Khan categorically can't be stopped by Tim, but I'll respond by saying that Bradley can drop and shake guys up, he brings a different look to every fight according to the opponent, and Khan's ability to take a shot is still an unknown quantity.


So Bradley looks bad?, Khan looks worse at this stage because he ain't fight nobody who's a threat. Bradley gets more benefit of the doubt that he wants these fights, he already unified belts, walked the walk, he was going to fight Khan's mandatory for him until that guy went running (or got 'injured').

What about this is so hard to understand?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Yeah i dont get the sudden hate for Bradley it seems to have suddenly come up after the Khan win, I am no Khan fan but i dont hate the guy.

Strange, isn't it, my man?


It seems as soon as someone starts to be perceived as a threat to Khan -- someone who's done what Khan ain't done, at that -- a bunch of Gloryhunting hometeam cheerleaders start finding ways to **** on him (and then predictably cry foul when the Americans justifiably defend their guy).



Bradley >>>>> Khan, end of story for now.

[Sparked_1985]

The hell?


Bradley's a great kid. When did we start bringing fighters' faith in to discussions as a stick to beat them with? What if Khan started thanking Allah after fights, does that make him a prick? How about his cronies misrepresenting Islam in NYC, does that make him a phoney?


You know a bunch of people basically hate Khan just because he's a ******, right? Nothing rubs certain scared, ignorant people up like Islam does.

But talking about that **** is dumb, right? So Bradley's Bible-thumping shouldn't be brought up, either. Personally, I enjoyed it when he got up on the ring post in Nottingham, pounding his chest and yelling "IN JESUS' NAME!! IN JESUS' NAME!!" at the pissed-off crowd - that zealousness and lack of being cowed by that hostile scene gave you a lot of insight into Bradley's determined character.


You Khan guys are strange - you're even nitpicking over that now.

My issue with it is this: boxing is a dangerous sport.

If you are going to qualify victory crowing with a 'well, thank god both me an my opponent are safe.' then go for it, by all means. But who does that, apart from Naz I think who said something similar regarding Allah after sparking Augie Sanchez.

When you start saying **** like, which as does happen: 'In Jesus' name'.........what? what you defeated Junior Witter on a split decision in Jesus' name?

It even grates when someone says 'well, it's thanks to God that I am here today.'. No, it'd be thanks to God if you were where you are today if you were a priest, and you were in a f.ucking church.

Nothing to do with liking Khan, and I extend all this feeling to all religions. A quiet prayer in the corner before a fight I'm fine with. That's a private moment. But loud religious babbling in victory is an instant turn off. It's just ignorant, arrogant and awful.

In short, for me. It just has to many ethical or moral implications. If Khan done the same it would turn me off too. It's specifically religious rhetoric crowing in victory - I genuinely hate it.