Bradley slams Khan, confirms Abregu date.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Oh yes, Khan is better than alexandra for sure. Although Bradley has the best resume.

people seem to forget how kotelnik was robbed against quitter.

lol quitter makes malignaggi's power look like marcos maidana in comparison.

Remember pencil legged urango, the one who was schooled by ricky hatton?

We did this the other day, I recall.


The comparison of Witter's power to Paul's is indefensible. Can you remember the last time you saw Paul KO anyone with a left-hook? I was in the venue the last time Witter did that, and it didn't look like he was throwing slappy arm-punches with talcum fists to me.

I remember Juan Urango, the one who gave awkward nights to Hatton and Berto, broke Ngoudjo's jaw and was perceived as both a headache to fight and unknockoutable at JWW until Alexander fought him.


Name a win better than stopping Urango on Khan's record. It isn't there. Urango would be seen as a threat to Khan if they'd fought, because of his pressure and his punch. More of a threat than Kotelnik or Malignaggi, then - yep.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Can anyone tell me what Alexander has done to be the number 1 or 2 fighter in the division?

Beat Juan Urango. Bloke that made a sick Ricky Hatton look like Willie Pep for half their fight.

[Pension-Killer]

[QUOTE=MAGIC M.I.B.;8435251]I didn't say he was. We need to progress past this bit.



Oooh, 'Bradley said'. Why are people on this forum so obsessive about what fighters say? You guys act like estrogen filled women over this stuff.

Bradley wants that payday like any other guy - and he's not going to walk in saying he'll lose.


I know the circumstances of Tim being stripped. But however bad anyone thinks Tim looks re. Alexander - if they're a Khan booster, they've got no leg to stand on, because Khan hasn't paid the dues Bradley has.



Witter wasn't shot, people really need to stop throwing that word around, it's getting silly. Witter was coming off a career best performance, that isn't shot. It's as good a win as Kotelnik for Khan, better I think than that version of Paulie for Khan and better than Salita by far.

Holt was a prime B level guy with skills and a real punch, not the JWW answer to John Duddy (Salita) or slow, no-punch Kotelnik or faded, even-less-punch Paulie. Holt brought his best to Bradley and was shut down, Bradley won wide on the cards and deservedly so.

Nate is NC

Perterson-Erm OK, but green

I think he beat Cherry which is OK


Bradley's already got this clearly even without the extra padding those 3 names afford. You don't have to have a HOF/ATG record to significantly better Khan's. Bradley's ledger has clearly more depth, variety and difficulty level when you break it down and take in all factors. If necessary, I'll come back with a report card on that if we really need to contest it and we can go head to head breaking it down.


Of course Alexander would be his defining win, that's not in question.

Witter was shot. He had no legs or answer.

His best win was a KO over Vivian Harris who to me isn't a good fighter. He's a good name on Witter's resume, but not a good fighter. Witter was not the same fighter he once was, not showing much speed or reflexes to his past.

Holt showed that he was able to drop Bradley twice. Holt really is a top 4 rounder and doesn't concentrate vs top guys after.

He's a ****er with some skill, but bradley has the perfect style to beat him. I even bet real money on Bradley winning.


Indeed he has a better resume than Khan, that's no doubt, and that's also part why he is the best Jww.

Beat Alexander, the paydays will come. Alex wants it. A tournament would gurantee money no matter what.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Beat Juan Urango. Bloke that made a sick Ricky Hatton look like Willie Pep for half their fight.

Tell me about it

Paulie/Kotelnik who got win over Maidana and was robbed in the uk against witter + Salitia> Urango/Witter who had lost to Bradley just before

Btw to the guy who is saying that Holt is some good win, didn't he just get blown out in 6 or something? Only reason he beat Torres in the rematch was cause of a sickening headbutt also.. otherwise he would have been sparked out.

Kid is barely beating Ben tackie and getting SD vs Hopkins... is 3 for 3 in his last 6 and that should be 2-4 if not for the headbutt. Gtfo with this B level fighter bs

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Witter was shot. He had no legs or answer.

His best win was a KO over Vivian Harris who to me isn't a good fighter. He's a good name on Witter's resume, but not a good fighter. Witter was not the same fighter he once was, not showing much speed or reflexes to his past.

Ok then,

if Witter was shot, then Malignaggi was shot, because he looked less like his peak self in there against Khan than Witter did against Bradley, and beating battle-worn Juan Diaz at practically JWW when the guy's already somewhat blown-up at 135 is no better than a KO win over Viv Harris.

Witter wasn't shot and nor was Paulie. Witter was nearer optimum than Paulie, though, hadn't been taking the damage Paulie had, still presented an awkward target (unlike Malignaggi, who's legs weren't there, who was right in front of Khan instead of circling like he once would have) and had a punch to at least earn respect with (again, unlike Malignaggi).


And I know this wasn't you, BTW, but,

to the guy bleating about Witter-Kotelnik being a robbery, when it was a close fight - close fights aren't robberies. By that standard, Kotelnik had just benefited from a robbery against Maidana going into his fight with Khan.

Holt showed that he was able to drop Bradley twice. Holt really is a top 4 rounder and doesn't concentrate vs top guys after.

He's a ****er with some skill, but bradley has the perfect style to beat him. I even bet real money on Bradley winning.

Ohh, the Zab Judah line, he's a 4 round fighter against top guys - gotcha.
One of Holt's KD's came in the final round, so he can't have switched off that much. He brought his A game to that fight and got outclassed in the 10 rounds between the knockdowns.

Indeed he has a better resume than Khan, that's no doubt, and that's also part why he is the best Jww.

A significantly better one, at that. So that's why he gets some benefit of the doubt that he actually does want to be in the ring with any of his better JWW peers anytime soon. Once again, he was already due to be fighting Khan's mandatory for him, until that guy pulled out twice.

Tim has given us way more proof of his willingness to fight live, prime threats in his own division than Team Khan has given of their boy's.

End of story. Khan boosters have no room to talk about anything until Khan-Maidana is signed for the Fall.

Beat Alexander, the paydays will come. Alex wants it. A tournament would gurantee money no matter what.

I'm not even contesting that. We don't know what Bradley will commit to after fighting Abregu anymore than we know what Khan will commit to after the projected July date.

Actually, I've got a pretty good idea re. Khan - he'll be fighting the Marquez-Diaz II winner. Feel free to bump if I'm wrong.

[Rome-By-Ko]

This is smart by TB make these guy wait and prove them self.TB is the most proved fighter at 140 not named Pac.Khan beats Paulie and he's some big shot?Devon beats urango and he is the man to beat get outta here with all that.TB beat a better witter a hungry Holt an young Peterson.Now he is gonna fight a WW come on TB is the shot caller at 140 bottom line.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Can anyone tell me what Alexander has done to be the number 1 or 2 fighter in the division?

IMHO nothing but he has done more then Khan Ortiz and other Jr WW so I feel he is in the right place.

[Grimmer]

What happened to the modest, extremely religious, non trash talking, guy?

Who is this guy and what has he done with Timothy Bradley?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Tell me about it

Paulie/Kotelnik who got win over Maidana and was robbed in the uk against witter + Salitia> Urango/Witter who had lost to Bradley just before

But the Kotelnik who was 'robbed' against Witter had just benefited from a 'robbery' against Maidana when Khan fought him.

Clue for ya - close fights aren't robberies.


Stopping Urango >>> decisioning Kotelnik.

According to P-K, Witter was shot. Well, then, Malignaggi was SHOT. Except neither were shot, because we're throwing terms like 'shot' around as loosely as 'robbery'.

Salita = JWW John Duddy with a Kippah instead of a Shamrock hat. Don't even mention that guy if you're trying to make Khan look good.

Btw to the guy who is saying that Holt is some good win, didn't he just get blown out in 6 or something? Only reason he beat Torres in the rematch was cause of a sickening headbutt also.. otherwise he would have been sparked out.

"Blown out"? "Or something"? Did you watch the Mabuza-Holt fight? Do you even know who Mabuza is?

Are any of you dudes watching fights, for that matter, excepting P-K?

A bunch of these guys are losing because they're fighting each other right when they represent a threat.

Who's Khan fighting that represents a real prime threat in his division? Maidana will be the first in the Roach era, IF that fight gets made.


Holt wasn't near being sparked out, BTW. You can talk about headbutts, but the fact is Torres is hittable at the best of times, that fight was a wildass shootout, Holt has a punch and he KTFO'd Torres with it.

Kid is barely beating Ben tackie and getting SD vs Hopkins... is 3 for 3 in his last 6 and that should be 2-4 if not for the headbutt. Gtfo with this B level fighter bs

He's 3-3 because he's fighting guys - live, prime threats in his division who weren't selected for safety. So mock him for being 3-3 in his last 6, but at least he can say those 3 losses came from real tests.

Holt's a B level talent fighter.

[boxaholic]

Maidana vs Khan co headlines Bradley vs Alexander in a sold out Wembley stadium. Khan gets homefeild advantage Bradley gets good money considiring that's what he wants. Maidana gets the shot in the tourney and even Maidana knows he isn't gonna decision Khan but he can clearly KO him. Alexander gets his just due by getting the tourney and the chance to fight Timmy.

The winner of the tourney is the next superstar that will fight the Manny vs Floyd winner or as a consolation prize the winner of Marquez/Diaz vs Katsidas.