Comments Thread For: Lucian Bute vs Kelly Pavlik is Being Pushed By HBO

[Walt Liquor]

well Bute isnt faster, slicker or a harder puncher then martinez. so i dont see how it could be a knock out and pavlik got his face beat in from round 9 to 12

Bute doesn't hit harder than Martinez? Care to explain that?

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This is a pretty interesting matchup. Pavlik might lose but it would be close. Bute is one of the most overrated, big names in the sport.

[catalinul]

Bute doesn't hit harder than Martinez? Care to explain that?

Yeah I also disagreed with him on that.

Also p4p and considering Pavlik will be slower at 68 he might be faster p4p than Martinez aswell.

[Walt Liquor]

pavlik has the reach advantage and power advantage

bute has one punch ko power. Pavlik has heavy hands. Do you people watch boxing in nsb?

[Walt Liquor]

This is a pretty interesting matchup. Pavlik might lose but it would be close. Bute is one of the most overrated, big names in the sport.

He's fighting everyone he can. He makes waaay more fightng at home than he would have n the tourney. Why do you say he's overrated? He certaily has the best or second best pop at 168 and he's a slick lefty=problems for everyone.

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He's fighting everyone he can. He makes waaay more fightng at home than he would have n the tourney. Why do you say he's overrated? He certaily has the best or second best pop at 168 and he's a slick lefty=problems for everyone.

He is fighting the best he can atm but that doesn't change the fact that he is icing gatekeepers. He may be good, but the way a lot of people hold him up is crazy. Kayoing Miranda and Andrade is impressive but lets be honest, they aren't that good. Most of the top 168 guys could beat Miranda and Andrade pretty easily at this point. I'll give him credit though, he is powerful.

[onechance87]

Pav needs to get a good confidence booster at 168, say against Brinkley, then get schooled by bute .u got to have a W first before getting at someone who is least a top 3 smw..

What about librado andade vs pavlik?I think andrade takes em out,but
would like to see it.

[Walt Liquor]

What about librado andade vs pavlik?I think andrade takes em out,but
would like to see it.

now that is a fight hbo should pick up.

[AntDawg]

damn, pavlik never learns...if he cant beat sergiro, how elses is he gonna beat a bigger superior boxer with power ?....bute is gonna retire him!

Bute is easy to get hit unlike Martinez.

[Walt Liquor]

He is fighting the best he can atm but that doesn't change the fact that he is icing gatekeepers. He may be good, but the way a lot of people hold him up is crazy. Kayoing Miranda and Andrade is impressive but lets be honest, they aren't that good. Most of the top 168 guys could beat Miranda and Andrade pretty easily at this point. I'll give him credit though, he is powerful.

No one else at 168 is a slick lefty with much pop. Let me know the last time a guy like that was overrated? No one in the division has fought anyone like him. To me he's got trouble written all over him.

I agree that his resume is slightly above average (but his spectacular asswhippngs and obvious improvement make it a bit better). 3 out of the 6 in the tourney have better resumes than him IMO. (at 168). Kessler, ward, dirrell.

I wish there was a boxer for him to fight out there but everyone left is a puncher/brawler. Whoever doesn't make the finals is who he should he gunning for, or the winner of Dawson/pascal (or the loser if they will come down).

To me his major problem is that his handspeed isn't that great. I'd favor dirrell over him.