What if Malignaggi came out like Floyd...AND HUNTED KHAN DOWN!!

[jrosales13]

Lol at Khan being a bigger puncher than prime Cotto. Cotto was a BEAST. Khan can overwhelm you with speed and pop, but his power is nothing like Cotto's. Paulie can take Khan's punches over the course of the fight. Say what you want about him, but he's got a hell of a heart. He took a serious beating against Miguel. I don't know where all these people are getting the idea that Khan will KO him.

Khan is faster than Cotto and there is were Khan gets most of his power.

However, lets also look at that version of Cotto. Paulie didn't fight the best Cotto. That Cotto was severely weight drained very weak from making weight.

And, again Paulie might have some wear and tear now. He has taking some punishment in that ring from Cotto and Hatton and in other fights. I would say Khan is the fresher guy.

But, I don't think Khan would stop Paulie.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

So from the start of his career all the way to 2007 he was Paulie. Then for some reason from the start of 2008 all the way to the end of 2008 he stopped being Paulie. Then magically all of sudden in 2009 he became Paulie again.

Is that what we're talking about?

So you believe that all fighters just sit their whole post-prospect careers on one plateau of performance, and don't endure intermittent dips or peaks in form caused by a variety, or any combination of, factors and circumstances?

Why are you even arguing this point? If you've watched Malignaggi, you should be able to perceive it for yourself. It's clear as day that he wasn't the same fighter in '08 that he'd been previously.

[jrosales13]

So you believe that all fighters just sit their whole post-prospect careers on one plateau of performance, and don't endure intermittent dips or peaks in form caused by a variety, or any combination of, factors and circumstances?

Why are you even arguing this point? If you've watched Malignaggi, you should be able to perceive it for yourself. It's clear as day that he wasn't the same fighter in '08 that he'd been previously.

So if he wasn't the same fighter in 08 then he was previous is safe to say he is STILL not the same fighter that was previous.

So WTF are we talking about here?

Or did he magically become Paulie again in 09?

What made 08 different? Could this be why 08 Paulie didn't look good. Maybe just maybe it was he fought 3 times against top level guys. And, neither of those 3 top level guys were weight drained. Could that be a possibility that he didn't look as good as he did in the previous years?

[BigStereotype]

Khan is faster than Cotto and there is were Khan gets most of his power.

However, lets also look at that version of Cotto. Paulie didn't fight the best Cotto. That Cotto was severely weight drained very weak from making weight.

And, again Paulie might have some wear and tear now. He has taking some punishment in that ring from Cotto and Hatton and in other fights. I would say Khan is the fresher guy.

But, I don't think Khan would stop Paulie.

Yeah, that makes sense. Still, Cotto was feeling strong enough to break Paulie's cheek and beat the **** out of him. He might be feeling that fight a little still, but his heart is so big I can't see Amir stopping him.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Diaz and Khan are like apples and oranges.

I respect the fact you like Paulie, but in all seriousness - how do you see Malignaggi winning this fight? A KO? A decision?

Where did I say Diaz and Khan were anything alike?

Did you actually comprehend the post?

I mean, dude - you're the one citing a backpedalling Paulie supposedly being outboxed by Hatton (I say supposedly because he wasn't outboxed at all) as evidence that Khan will easily outbox Malignaggi if Paul tries to press the fight at any point.

That's apples and oranges.



I cited the Diaz fights with reference to my uncertainty over whether Paulie has fully recovered his best form, the form that badly abandoned him between winning his IBF strap and hooking up with Sherif Younan. Paulie, because he doesn't have big guns to bail him out, is one of those fighters to whom having everything working like clockwork, being absolutely his sharpest, is essential to his chances of success when facing a big test like this. Moreso than is standard, IMO.

Don't try and tell me that a peak Malignaggi has no chance whatsoever with Khan. Like I said, you're talking this dude up like he's a human AK47 that's just gonna terminate everything in its path.

[Derranged.]

this would happen

[Ganondorf]

I hope you're right, but I don't see it. Khan is bigger, faster, stronger. Like you said, his main problem is his chin. I think he was hurt against Barrera. Unfortunately Paulie don't have the pop that Zab has. Amir Khan-- UD

[Ganondorf]

I hope you're right, but I don't see it. Khan is bigger, faster, stronger. Like you said, his main problem is his chin. I think he was hurt against Barrera. Unfortunately Paulie don't have the pop that Zab has. Amir Khan-- UD

The reason I said Zab, of course, is because Zab is also a Brooklyn guy. I don't think Khan lasts 6 rounds with Zab right now though.

[And Still]

So from the start of his career all the way to 2007 he was Paulie. Then for some reason from the start of 2008 all the way to the end of 2008 he stopped being Paulie. Then magically all of sudden in 2009 he became Paulie again.

Is that what we're talking about?

The paulie that fought Cotto was a better fighter than the paulie that fought Hatton.

PM had hand problems and was completely gunshy in throwing the right hand. And I notice that he didn't use his movement at all against Ricky.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

So if he wasn't the same fighter in 08 then he was previous is safe to say he is STILL not the same fighter that was previous.

So WTF are we talking about here?

The bold is what I said the jury is still out on, based on what he showed us against Diaz. Hence my reservations about his chances tonight, which belie my partiality to his cause and which I hope he blows away.

What about that is so hard to comprehend?

Or did he magically become Paulie again in 09?

It's well documented that in 2009 he changed up his camp and went back to basics with a new trainer, working on key elements of his game he believed had come to be neglected under McGirt's guidance. We saw some definite fruits of this labor against Diaz, perceptible improvement - exactly how much of his old quality has returned isn't easy to guage from those performances, though. As a fan, you try and not get too carried away when you see your guy put on a show like that, and remember to factor in the opposition and the circumstances of the fight, which is why I'm not totally sold that Paul is fully restored to the level he was at.

What made 08 different? Could this be why 08 Paulie didn't look good. Maybe just maybe it was he fought 3 times against top level guys. And, neither of those 3 top level guys were weight drained. Could that be a possibility that he didn't look as good as he did in the previous years?

Then how do you explain his failure to repeat his dominance of N'dou in the rematch? That's a rugged but limited guy who didn't do anything especially different in the second fight than he did in the first - it was Malignaggi who was different, and that's clearly evident in his performances in that calendar year.
Ngoudjo is decent alphabet contender level, but I don't believe the Malignaggi of a year or two previous makes as big a mountain out of that molehill.
The Hatton fight was one that Paulie needed to be his best in, and it instead became the (anti) climax of an awful year for him.


And if you're attributing Paulie's performance aganst Cotto purely to Miguel's readiness to move up from the weight, you're just hatin'.