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  • Originally posted by checko12 View Post
    This is the thing about negotiations especially with one as heated and as high profiled such as this. It almost seems as if things are just being pulled out of nowhere and in all fairness, we know absolutely nothing about what was said in litigation.

    1. The $10M penalty is not excessive, in fact it is by the books according to the commission. 20% of the purse if you come in 2 pounds over, per pound. Manny simply wanted the penalty to start at the first pound over. Half that penalty goes to the commission, the other to the opponent. 20% of a $50M purse is $10M.

    2. Cotto fought Pac a pound below what he fought Clottey at and a pound and some change at what he fought Margarito at. If I'm not mistaken that's still well within welter limits.

    3. Morales fought in between 128 and 130 most of his career which wasn't a surprise when he came into the ring weighing the same weight he registered at. That's not drained.

    All of these rules were and are coherent to those of the commission so any argument that says otherwise is misleading to say the least. The one thing we do know is that blood tests were not and with Pacquiao agreeing to do so, whether there was some reluctance, is a big concession on his part. Floyd's no different and has fared well with the commission rules up until he was considering a fight with Manny so the notion of Floyd wanting to even out a level playing field is erroneous when he too has been protected and deemed the NSAC a fair factor in upholding match up integrity.
    You disgust me. How the hell does that statement make sense to you? Then again, based on your logic on point 3, I shouldn't be surprised.

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    • Originally posted by Brail View Post
      Have you notice these are all Bob Arum/Top rank Fighters?

      come on man.. that is just the weakest excuse I have ever heard..

      That's what happens when you're the top promotional company in boxing- you sign the best fighters.

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      • Originally posted by jtiger78 View Post
        ok now lets deal with this ... how is it a duck when if pac take the test the fight happens a duck would be if he didnt entertain the fight at all the excuses and duck seems to be coming from pac or maybe his contradicting camp

        Blah blah blah, Make the fight and stop hiding behind a commissions back.. I see you didnt need a commission when inserting $10 million penalties for your opponent coming one pound over weight, You didnt need the commission when you fought Cotto at 145, You didnt need the same commission when you fought a drained Morales with penalties stipulated in the contract, Now that you have a high-profile opponent who also have the power to throw some stipulation back at you in a contract you all of a sudden want everyone to abide by the commission's rules....Sign the contract or retire and STFU.
        Obviously Floyd is not as confident as his fans, he was offered 24 days and REFUSED.

        He "retired" and came back to fight a lightweight, then changed his mind.

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        • Originally posted by Bee Keepz View Post
          Obviously Floyd is not as confident as his fans, he was offered 24 days and REFUSED.

          He "retired" and came back to fight a lightweight, then changed his mind.
          Why does Pac need 24 days?

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          • Originally posted by checko12 View Post
            This is the thing about negotiations especially with one as heated and as high profiled such as this. It almost seems as if things are just being pulled out of nowhere and in all fairness, we know absolutely nothing about what was said in litigation.

            1. The $10M penalty is not excessive, in fact it is by the books according to the commission. 20% of the purse if you come in 2 pounds over, per pound. Manny simply wanted the penalty to start at the first pound over. Half that penalty goes to the commission, the other to the opponent. 20% of a $50M purse is $10M.

            2. Cotto fought Pac a pound below what he fought Clottey at and a pound and some change at what he fought Margarito at. If I'm not mistaken that's still well within welter limits.

            3. Morales fought in between 128 and 130 most of his career which wasn't a surprise when he came into the ring weighing the same weight he registered at. That's not drained.

            All of these rules were and are coherent to those of the commission so any argument that says otherwise is misleading to say the least. The one thing we do know is that blood tests were not and with Pacquiao agreeing to do so, whether there was some reluctance, is a big concession on his part. Floyd's no different and has fared well with the commission rules up until he was considering a fight with Manny so the notion of Floyd wanting to even out a level playing field is erroneous when he too has been protected and deemed the NSAC a fair factor in upholding match up integrity.
            10mil per pound over is not excessive???????? ok fine its ur opinion but is it a commission rule? all of what u are saying is great... but it doesnt take away from the fact that pac has fought with rules other than the commissions thats was the point of the post. no matter if its in the welter limits in his contract he damanded cotto to be at 145 which wasnt a comission rule right? as far as the test we all know the current testing process is iffy and there are ways around it! has that not been proven?! it has to start somewhere just like 12 round fights coming from 15! u can all argue floyd never asked for this test before pac but the fact is that its apart of this contract. if roach arum and pac dont plan on taking the test why do they keep on bringing up the fight every 3 days either take it or move on to margarito!!!!!

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            • Shut up

              this is funny the fight didt happen cause pac man want it 24 day cut off
              and he still wants it so why think theres gonna be a fight?
              theres not so shut up. pac man dont want to take a drug test
              he say there not rules of the nsac. but i never heard of a fight at 147 for a
              belt at 145 and making cotto no weight a pound over. i never heard of that
              i never heard pac man wants to win a 154 belt at 150 that made rules
              from there team is funny how they can make demands that will
              drain a fighter. but mayweather cant demand drug test lol
              shut up fight not gonna happen cause people act like
              the drug test is not an issue like over riding everything that happen.
              mayweather does not care about pac man.. he ethere takes
              the test and fight or not. mayweather will still make money and
              be the best without pac-man..

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              • Originally posted by checko12 View Post
                How dare? Really?
                If you're looking at things from a "reality" standpoint like you claim to be then you would have failed to notice that the Philippines is very different in the way it is run compared to any ********ic stronghold. The Philippines is ran corrupt because of the so called qualified candidates, all might i add who have an education and/or family background in politics, who were put in office. There was no comparison on my part to pair ***** and Manny. You put up what seems to be a misinformed thread so I answer you in lay man's language (you put up an idiotic statement, I answer you like an idiot) because in most cases you look at things from only your perspective and none other. BTW Manny didn't run for president and Sarangani is a very very small part of the Philippines. I believe though (and I'll go back to your drama queen rant about *****) that Barack's message was hope..given the state the U.S. was in during that campaign message shows you how critical of a time our country was going through...I believe Manny's message was the same but in comparison, can you imagine the P.I.'s situation?

                Dude, you are suffocating on Manny's little ****. You live in the Philippines and you still don't get it. The Philippine government is gangster.

                Don't come with that "Manny brings hope" bull****. Manny is a prize fighter with a 3rd grade education. He is a figurehead now and that's all he is. Without boxing where would Manny be right now, giving me rides on a trike to the palangke? He is popular because of his boxing career.


                And don't forget, behind closed doors in the Filipino government there are people who are more powerful than Manny. They are just using him for his popularity. Similar to Alexis Arguello in Nicaragua.

                Manny should keep his azz out of politics or it will be his downfall. He can help his people in his small province without politics. But Manny thinks he can do it all now because of his fame.

                Stick to fighting Manny, that's your nich, not politics.

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                • Originally posted by Boxing's Truth View Post
                  Dude, you are suffocating on Manny's little ****. You live in the Philippines and you still don't get it. The Philippine government is gangster.

                  Don't come with that "Manny brings hope" bull****. Manny is a prize fighter with a 3rd grade education. He is a figurehead now and that's all he is. Without boxing where would Manny be right now, giving me rides on a trike to the palangke? He is popular because of his boxing career.


                  And don't forget, behind closed doors in the Filipino government there are people who are more powerful than Manny. They are just using him for his popularity. Similar to Alexis Arguello in Nicaragua.

                  Manny should keep his azz out of politics or it will be his downfall. He can help his people in his small province without politics. But Manny thinks he can do it all now because of his fame.

                  Stick to fighting Manny, that's your nich, not politics.
                  yeah the mans a boxer who said he never heard of steroids lmaoooooooooo and ur right manny has no idea what hes doing in that office hes going to be a puppet just like any other politician its good that he cares i wont take that away from the guy but some the **** on every government is currupt nothing will change the people will just smile and wear pac mang shirts/hats for about a year and a half because hes in office then after they notice nothing has changed everything will go back to normal very funny post good **** lol!

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                  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    Why does Pac need 24 days?
                    Why not?

                    Seems like a lot of trouble for "easy work".

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                    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      You disgust me. How the hell does that statement make sense to you? Then again, based on your logic on point 3, I shouldn't be surprised.
                      Cause it's been proven?

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