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Pernell whitaker is the greatest defensive boxer not floyd.
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Originally posted by Hannibal Barca View PostAnd "heard" of them is all you've done. More of the over glorified fighters of the past who many of us have only seen small samples of.
No statistical analysis of their opponents connect percentage, their competition for the most part pales in comparison to the speed, power, and quickness of the fighters today, etc, etc.
I refuse to place myths above those we've actually seen fight at all stages of their careers.
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostWhat myth is there about Pep and Locche? You do know there are footage of them right?
Do you even know who Locche is? There is even footage of him in color.
There is no 'heard' when it comes to Locche. There is visual evidence.
Man you should really get up on the history of boxing. On the real when you do you would find even a deeper appreciation for the sport.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostWhat myth is there about Pep and Locche? You do know there are footage of them right?
Do you even know who Locche is? There is even footage of him in color.
There is no 'heard' when it comes to Locche. There is visual evidence.
Man you should really get up on the history of boxing. On the real when you do you would find even a deeper appreciation for the sport.
So because Locche has fights in color, those very limited samples are supposed to be representative of his 136 fights? Furthermore, we know even less about the fighters Locche was matched up against. How talented exactly were Antonio Cervantes, Joao Henrique, Adolph Pruitt, Carlos Hernandez, Domingo Barrera Corpas, and Alfonso Frazier? What were their strengths and weakness, how fast were they, etc, etc?
I know a solid amount of boxing history, but I refuse to place fighters many of us have hardly seen fight against those we've seen fight since the birth of their careers, against; On average, better competition.
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Originally posted by Calilloyd View PostI've seen both of them in their primes so don't even try that. And technically neither one has any opponents in the HOF right now if you want to take it there.
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Originally posted by Hannibal Barca View PostI don't feel a few youtube videos are representative of a fighters entire career, especially one that was composed of roughly 240 fights.
So because Locche has fights in color, those very limited samples are supposed to be representative of his 136 fights? Furthermore, we know even less about the fighters Locche was matched up against. How talented exactly were Antonio Cervantes, Joao Henrique, Adolph Pruitt, Carlos Hernandez, Domingo Barrera Corpas, and Alfonso Frazier? What were their strengths and weakness, how fast were they, etc, etc?
I know a solid amount of boxing history, but I refuse to place fighters many of us have hardly seen fight against those we've seen fight since the birth of their careers, against; On average, better competition.
Locche in one of his best performances completely shut out and clowned hall of famer Antonio Cervantes over 15 rounds. Here's film of Cervantes:
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Originally posted by Calilloyd View PostI've seen both of them in their primes so don't even try that. And technically neither one has any opponents in the HOF right now if you want to take it there.
But, I want to correct you... Azumah Nelson is in the IBHOF. Whitaker beat him...
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whitaker's defense was sorta...odd. it didnt make sense yet it look beautiful. its somethin u'll never see again. floyds defense is a mixture of skill and natural talent. ****s almost perfect. whitaker's d wasnt exactly perfect but it was mind boggling.
its really hard to compare the defensive styles of the 2, because they were nothing alike. but floyd's mastery of textbook orthodox boxing defense is uparalelled by anything ive ever seen.
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[QUOTE=STRUGG;8314653]lol...........join the club..........what do you want a medal......lol.........who making ATG/HOF in floyds resume......and peas then???[/QUOTE
Don't be ridiculous. They both have potential future HOF fighter's on their resume.
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