Pernell whitaker is the greatest defensive boxer not floyd.

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  • STRUGG
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    #161
    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
    dude, do u exist just to troll ppl???i mean come on, ppl are in here arguin facts but ur there makin general statements that make no sense. floyd isnt the poor man's anything. he's his own man. his skills are unique and like nothin b4. him and pea are comparable for their defensive mastery but their styles are not comparable
    nope...........its a boxing forum.........and im stating my points strongly.........let me put it this way...........Mr. mayweather cant touch pernells defense..................his "draw" with JCC ****s on any of floyd's best win............................

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    • STRUGG
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      #162
      [QUOTE=Hannibal Barca;8314758]
      Originally posted by STRUGG

      Stop posting. You're radiating ******ity.

      naaah....you make me look good..........

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      • Hannibal Barca
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        #163
        [QUOTE=STRUGG;8314775]
        Originally posted by Hannibal Barca


        naaah....you make me look good..........
        I don't quite understand the repetitive breaks in your sentences. Are you ******ed?

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        • Calilloyd
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          #164
          Originally posted by djsygo
          Whats the point in dodging alone? Floyd goes to defence to offence, Pernell was great but focused almost only on D

          Totally untrue. Some of you are exposing yourselves as limited when it comes to the topic of Pernell Whitaker.
          Last edited by Calilloyd; 05-07-2010, 08:43 PM.

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            #165
            [QUOTE=Hannibal Barca;8314786]
            Originally posted by STRUGG

            I don't quite understand the repetitive breaks in your sentences. Are you ******ed?

            you mean if i suffer from down's syndrome???....nope

            because i can.......................lol.................

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #166
              Originally posted by Calilloyd
              Totally untrue. Some of you are exposing yourselves as limited when it comes to the topic' of Pernell Whitaker.
              All they need to do is download Pernell's stuff. If you love watching Floyd's mastery, then without question you'll love watching Pernell Whitaker. I believe that they've seen very little of him/ or when he was past his prime.

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              • Travdog
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                #167
                Whitaker was the master of defense in his time and Mayweather is for his era. An argument can be made for both!

                I like Money May's style more because of his counterpunching

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
                  Fair enough; but you have 6 fights of his 140. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they weren't great fighters, but can that relatively small sample of his career be representation enough to proclaim his defensive superiority over Sweat Pea or Floyd? Not to me.
                  I wouldn't claim defensive superiority but I'd put him at that level. Mayweather, Whitaker, Locche, all were almost impossible to land punches consistently on at their peak. As a fighter I don't rate Locche among the greatest but he accomplished quite a lot despite having no punch and doing little training for his fights, which is a testament to how good he was defensively as he went 117-4 against solid opposition.

                  The differences in defensive mastery and effectiveness are marginal at best in my opinion. Statistically Whitaker may have been hit more than Mayweather but then again he was also more aggressive and threw approximately 800 punches on average, while Mayweather throws about half the amount of punches. Whitaker could afford to be more offensive, as he could avoid punches even at close range, while much of Mayweather's effectiveness comes from him thinking defense at all times and never putting himself at risk.

                  In my view the greatest defensive fighter of all time is still Willie Pep, although without an extensive amount of film on him it's difficult to claim that his defense was truly the best. However, like Mayweather, Whitaker and Locche, and unlike Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong and Harry Greb, who were offensive fighters, his style was defense first and in my opinion Pep accomplished the most with that particular style. I won't say that his defense was any better but there isn't a defensive fighter more accomplished than him as far as I can see.

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                  • Calilloyd
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                    All they need to do is download Pernell's stuff. If you love watching Floyd's mastery, then without question you'll love watching Pernell Whitaker. I believe that they've seen very little of him/ or when he was past his prime.



                    Agreed. I would recommend Whitaker -Haugan,Ramirez 1and2,and Roger Mayweather to start. Whitaker-Pineda was a masterpiece. Poli Diaz, the Buddy Mcgirt rematch,the Julio Cesar Chavez fight, I can go on and on.
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                    • TheGreatA
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