Why Cant Everybody Quit Pretending?

[Calilloyd]

I dont wish anyone to get too seriously injured either, but Im just sick of people acting more moral than they have a right to. You can't criticize people who dont agree with stricter drug testing saying they dont care a bout a fighters health, when you yourself encourage them to put themselves at risk for brain damage in every fight. Thats just a generalized statement I'm not speaking to you personally.

Fair enough.

[Sweet Jesus]

I dont wish anyone to get too seriously injured either, but Im just sick of people acting more moral than they have a right to. You can't criticize people who dont agree with stricter drug testing saying they dont care a bout a fighters health, when you yourself encourage them to put themselves at risk for brain damage in every fight. Thats just a generalized statement I'm not speaking to you personally.

Sister, you are a steroid abuser. In 5 years when I can start making it out to Vegas for the big fights we should meet up.

[Syf]

I dont have arguments for anything you posted. I understand the fairness of it is a factor, but thats not what I keep reading. I keep reading how Floyd is scared for his health thats why he wants OSTs. Nobody has been able to prove that that is their own honest opinion. It just feels hypocritical to suddenly act like we are really worried about these guys health when fighters like Victor Ortiz gets criticized for not wanting to take any further punishment. If Victor Ortiz is a coward for not wanting to get beat up further Floyd Mayweather is a coward for even refusing to get in the ring with Pacquiao unless he takes the tests.

That is pretty ******ed logic. Floyd doesn't do PEDS and he wants to fight fighters that also don't. That is fully his prerogative. All that countless hours of training and skill can be trumped by the superior physicality peds and concentrated HGH provide. To suggest a man quitting and a man wanting fairness is the same is well, dumb. I don't know if you noticed in his 41 fights but floyd doesn't have any quit in him, just like Pac. To suggest otherwise is delusional. Don't go full ****** on us Mack.

Oh and I know u scorn the moral high horse but I happen to believe in honorable contests. My aim isn't to see someone permanently maimed its to watch boxing.

[AKATheMack]

That is pretty ******ed logic. Floyd doesn't do PEDS and he wants to fight fighters that also don't. That is fully his prerogative. All that countless hours of training and skill can be trumped by the superior physicality peds and concentrated HGH provide. To suggest a man quitting and a man wanting fairness is the same is well, dumb. I don't know if you noticed in his 41 fights but floyd doesn't have any quit in him, just like Pac. To suggest otherwise is delusional. Don't go full ****** on us Mack.

Oh and I know u scorn the moral high horse but I happen to believe in honorable contests. My aim isn't to see someone permanently maimed its to watch boxing.

We have no idea if Floyd has any quit in him hes never received the punishment in a fight that Ortiz took from Maidana. Quitting because you dont want you career to be over before it starts is intelligent and anyone who criticizes him for it is ignorant. Ortiz got in the ring with a man he didnt know was clean, and chose to fight the wrong fight and paid for it. Floyd refuses to step in the ring unless stricter drug testing is implemented. How is Ortiz more cowardly for stepping into the ring than Floyd not getting in the ring? Do you have any examples of a fighter being maimed because his opponent was on steroids?

[Bogler]

funny how posters affected here are mostly floyd fans

and some are ******edly enough to respond as if there is NO drug testing being done.

[Dick Buffman]

Surely you could provide me an example of where I said this then, right? My boxing knowledge far exceeds your own and thats not a secret to anyone who frequents NSB.

I can attest to this.

I just want people to understand that this issue is more complicated than just take the test. The only way to ensure a 100% level playing field is to legalize all PEDS that would ultimately make it impossible to cheat. Even with the strictest forms of testing we arent ensured complete honesty. People have been making steroids untraceable for as long as they've been testing for them. What about the men who take the blood? Are they beyond su****ion? Would they not take a bribe form a multi-million dollar athlete? Do we have 24/7 video surveillance of all blood samples taken until they reach the lab? At some point proving your innocence beyond all doubt is impossible.

Exactly. True transparency will never be possible. There's too many different levels where corruption can exist.

I never thought those 2 on the 24/7 looked trustworthy at all. Especially that skinny pencil necked twerp.

[Hannibal Barca]

We all watch a sport where we expect 2 grown men to enter a ring and repeatedly punch their opponent as hard as they can in the face and body. Can yall not get off your moral high horse and admit we dont really care about these fighters health? So do we draw the line at we dont care if these fighters get brain damage or worse as long as the fighter who did it wasnt on steroids?

Speak for yourself. The integrity of sports as an entity, not just boxing, is what's most important to me.

[edgarg]

So when you said this you were only talking about PEDs?

What Luis Resto did to Billy Collins, differs very little from what Hopkins does, and will keep doing as long as he gets away with it. Both have the intention to seriously damage and hurt opponents to their detriment. The degree of hurt is governed mainly by a combination of malice, resilience, and chance.

[Guest]

We all watch a sport where we expect 2 grown men to enter a ring and repeatedly punch their opponent as hard as they can in the face and body. Can yall not get off your moral high horse and admit we dont really care about these fighters health? So do we draw the line at we dont care if these fighters get brain damage or worse as long as the fighter who did it wasnt on steroids?

AKATheMack is a true mother****er.


Amen, brother. Green k.

[jrosales13]

TS has a great point. I just think he didn't really worded it right. So his point is getting misinterpreted.