Greater Fighter, Roy Jones Jr Or Floyd Mayweather Jr?

[Khalid X]

TOO early to judge, but Mayweather right now is where Roy was in 2003.

Martinez is Floyds John Ruiz


Pacquiao is Floyds Antonio Tarver

Mayweather needs to make the smart decision and face the guy in his own weight class first(pacman), and save the bigger guy for later.

Dont make the same mistake Roy Jones made by moving up, then coming down in weight to face a dangerous guy.

hell no!!!!!! you are comparing a great fighter like Martinez to one of the worst HW champions in the history of the sport.

[Khalid X]

BTW Mayweather and it really isn't close. Like I said b4, outside of Toney and B-Hop....what other great fighters has Roy beaten. His resume takes a huge drop after those two wins, and I really wish people would smarten up when discussing his career.

[AKATheMack]

Mayweather hasnt faced the better opposition, I just dont see it. Jones win over Ruiz trumps Floyds win over Shane easily and his wins at 160 and 168 are bigger than Floyds at 130-135. Talking about Jones getting KOd is silly also because Roy was 49-1 when he got knocked out and he was older than Mayweather is now.

[pbftxrs316]

TOO early to judge, but Mayweather right now is where Roy was in 2003.

Martinez is Floyds John Ruiz


Pacquiao is Floyds Antonio Tarver

Mayweather needs to make the smart decision and face the guy in his own weight class first(pacman), and save the bigger guy for later.

Dont make the same mistake Roy Jones made by moving up, then coming down in weight to face a dangerous guy.

this is actually a good point soir, this makes a lot of sense---but when you look at it, floyd is already greater than roy---because of what he accomplished so fast----floyd moved from 160 to ****ing heavyweight, yes, but you have to remember, who has faced more quality opposition---they both have been rediculed for their opponents in the past----floyd has been more dominant against better opposition----roy was amazing in his prime, but you have to understand, he stayed on too long----his losses to joe, benard, danny, tarver twice, and glenn johnson has to come into play----floyd has been more dominant over bigger competition than roy---

people tend to look at roy more than floyd as the better fighter because of roy's fighting style, but look where it got him----once his athleticism wandered away from him, he had nothing to fall back on, but the canvas----roy has been knocked out 3 times-----he suffered a knock down back in 1998, b hop just beat him, joe c. had roy looking super old----yes, roy wasn't in his prime, but that's his fault that he let his stardom take over his hunger----floyd has won more titles than roy in lesser time---floyd is still undfeated---floyd's skills is still complete---he has been more dominant than roy---and what i mean by dominant isn't just who got his less--i mean overall performances----roy beat a heavyweight yes, and people tend to hold that against floyd, when comparing him to roy----roy did beat a much bigger guy, he fought smart, but it was john ruiz----it wasn't a lennix lewis or something like that---james toney beat holyfield, stopped him---it doesn't cover his whole career---

floyd will be greater all time than roy---people say roy was the most gifted fighter they've ever seen---and i always considered floy greater---floyd always holds compubox records against top competition----he hasn't lost, never been knocked down officially---has broken ppv records, was p4p longer than roy---

it's hard for people to, especially on here to put floyd and great in the same sentence, because of the hatred they have for him---roy was amazing in th e90's, no doubt, was so was floyd---and one has 0 defeats, while the other has 6 losses---you have to take that into account when determining who's greater---yes, greatness isn't always determined by wins and losses to you people, who think that, but then call a person a bum if they lose----

floyd will be considered greater--and is greater right now---imo

[pbftxrs316]

Mayweather hasnt faced the better opposition, I just dont see it. Jones win over Ruiz trumps Floyds win over Shane easily and his wins at 160 and 168 are bigger than Floyds at 130-135. Talking about Jones getting KOd is silly also because Roy was 49-1 when he got knocked out and he was older than Mayweather is now.

you see, this is what i mean, john ruiz was just a bigger guy than roy, you can't hold that win over a whole career---it's your opinion--but saying roy's wins vs floyd's wins---when floyd fought better competition and it showed----how about roy losing to tarver, johnson, calzaghe, green---i mean, floyd has been overall, the more dominant fighter---thus, the greater fighter---

[mrgreenfingers]

it isnt even close

[AKATheMack]

you see, this is what i mean, john ruiz was just a bigger guy than roy, you can't hold that win over a whole career---it's your opinion--but saying roy's wins vs floyd's wins---when floyd fought better competition and it showed----how about roy losing to tarver, johnson, calzaghe, green---i mean, floyd has been overall, the more dominant fighter---thus, the greater fighter---

Who did Floyd fight that was better than Roy? Wins over Hopkins and Toney trump wins over Corrales and Castillo, wins over Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, Montell Griffin are at least on par to DLH, Judah and Gatti. A win over a one loss Tarver in the first fight is at least on par with beating a Mosley who was troubled against a shot Mayorga 2 years ago. And becoming the first man to move from MW to HW and win a title in over 100 years is impressive regardless of who he beat. And Floyd hasnt even made to the age or the number of fights Roy had when he first got KOd so how is that even a factor?

[mrgreenfingers]

BTW Mayweather and it really isn't close. Like I said b4, outside of Toney and B-Hop....what other great fighters has Roy beaten. His resume takes a huge drop after those two wins, and I really wish people would smarten up when discussing his career.

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i think people just remember fondly the skills roy was able produce, yes in his hey day could potentially beat anyone, but when its all said and done, its not even close, even though i dont necessarily believe so, Hopkins has a strong case to be remembered as greater it takes dedication to do it for a whole career. Floyd has the althletic and technical gifts, add in the dedication and longevity not to mention yet to be beaten, hes streets ahead of Roy already, it just think theres a certain nostalgia/favouritism when people come to talking about Roy that clouds their judgment.

[shonuff488]

Roy = The most athletically gifted fighter of all time.

Floyd = The most technically sound fighter of all time.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

I can't believe you would compare Mayweather to that delusional P4P Tomatoe can beating ...

I'll end it there.