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  • #71
    Originally posted by -DesertStorm- View Post
    Maybe because the guy is still a prospect? I mean the guy only has like 20 fights and you guys want to throw him in against those beasts??

    You guys act like what he's doing has never been done before....sure he might be targeting fighters that might be on the decline but isn't that the way it should be for young fighters? I mean start with the worn -out veterans and work towards the elites?

    Pac has been fighting past-prime fighters for years yet he doesn't get any flack for it? An this guy that is just coming up gets ****ted on for it? i really don't understand why the hate....but then again this is a forum where posters glorify murderers and cheaters yet ****ts on honest and true fighters that give it their all.....very weird.....
    I do not believe he is a prospect, I believe he is a contender big difference. He was a prospect before he fought Richard Gutierrez after that fight he was really turning into a contender. Interestingly enough before the P. Williams fight, a fight between Angulo and Martinez probably wouldn't have been seen as a great mismatch. So what that he has 20 fights? JC Chavez Jr.has 30+ fights but he is still a prospect and it is not the number of fights it's the quality of opposition a fighter faces, Angulo to his credit has taken tough fighters a lot tougher opposition than Chavez Jr. so no Alfredo Angulo is not a prospect. Another thing to consider is that Alfredo Angulo can easily be in the top 5 of division. We got Martiniez, Williams, Foreman, Dzindruik, and Angulo can be in that mix (can be interchangeable with Cintron depending on Williams-Cintron) we cannot include Cotto or Margarito because they have not proven themselves at light middleweight yet, but Cotto can be a top light middleweight if he beats Foreman. The fact is Angulo is not far from title contention so he will have to fight Martinez or another top light middleweight ANYWAY. If his promoter feels he is in for bigger fights then a Angulo-Williams or Angulo-Martinez shouldn't be outrageous. This division is packed with great fighters, but few name fighters. I agree that Margarito or Cotto will be fine to develop his career but it seems to me that his handlers simply do not want Angulo to fight fighters that can present him some problems. If not Martinez or Williams how about Dzindruik? Even Foreman can present problems for Angulo. That is what HONEST fighters do they fight whoever even those who present problems to them. Because that's what they do HONEST fighters thrive on adversity because it makes them stronger and fight all the much harder. I have been a trainer in this game my whole life and ALL my fighters live by that code. Before you are a superstar in boxing you are a fighter ALWAYS.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Bk'sFinest809 View Post
      cotto than fought the wrong fight. In a rematch cotto learns from his mistakes and beats margo, especially now that marg's chin has been cracked, and even thought Angulo is bigger, he's slower, more one dimensional and less of a volume puncher than margarito. Angulo just throws straight punches, cotto would just have to use his jab move to his left and counter over the top with lefts and straight rights, but thats easier said than done, but imo cotto outboxes angulo and tears him apart.
      The thing is, Cotto walks into uppercuts if he shoots to the body, all Angulo has to do is throw uppercuts and Cotto would not throw, another thing is if Angulo catches Cotto early, we both seen what Cotto does when he is hurt, and if Angulo hurts him I see him getting KO'd...now if Emmanuel Stewart really did help Cotto's basics he could indeed box him and make Angulo look like an Amateur, but unless something changes with Cotto, I see the same thing happening against Angulo (what happened with Pac and Tony) only time will tell.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
        Angulo gets outboxed by Cotto and ****d by Margo.


        Funny thing is that they dont Call out Dzinziruk, whom Angulo is the mandatory challenger for!!!!
        Dude seriously are you ****ing ******ed??? I mean is good you like cotto especially since he is from puerto rico since he is your contryman but Angulos style is perfectly made to put an ass beating on cotto. Angulo fights the same way margarito does with a good ass chin. The only difference is Angulo has that one punch ko which will dropped cotto dead on the canvas specially with his glass jaw. Margarito did that with accumulated pressure only he is not a one punch ko guy.

        Besides the fact cotto can't box all 12 rounds we seen that against margarito he gasses out now it will be much quicker since he already has 3 beatings on his record with margarito he was undefeated with no prior punishment so when he was fresher he folded under the pressure what makes you think he will be able to pull it out now with a much stronger guy that applies the same pressure margarito does.

        The cintron fight he was able to keep the pressure off in the early rounds because cintron is a strong puncher than cotto. But the later rounds cintron barely pulled it off he was close of getting dropped props for him for being in great shape that he bareley made it in a rematch cintron would fold to the pressure especially since angulo started of slow and that fever he had before the fight. But it is styles makes fight. Now to Foreman he can probably outbox angulo he has the shape to do it and is a better boxer with better defense than cotto cotto gets hit way to much. To margarito the winner will be the one with the strongest chin plain simple as that.

        If you are a boxing fan you gotta realize styles makes fights. Lot of people are going for cotto to beat foreman don't be surprised if he gets kod or outboxed. Foreman if he wanted to apply more pressure he would of kod santos but didn't do it after dropping him several times santos was a pretty solid champion so foreman is no soft opponent.

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        • #74
          Margarito destroyed Cintron worse than he did Cotto and Cintron schooled Angulo so the theory that Angulo can do to Cotto what Margo did is false.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO View Post
            cotto would beat angulo angulo cant beat a top fighter cotto body punches n hooks would take angulo out i dont even think angulo would beat yuri
            Angulo has a higher chance of KOing Cotto, if he throws to the body, he will eat uppercuts....then what? What if Cotto's punches don't faze Angulo and he keeps coming, what will Cotto do then? Box? Ok, but he is still getting tagged and hurt, then what? See to beat Cotto you must pressure the **** out of him, walk him down and not be hurt by his punches, Angulo's chin so far seems good, so I see Angulo pulling a Pac/Tony and beating Cotto down and KOing him.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
              Margarito destroyed Cintron worse than he did Cotto and Cintron schooled Angulo so the theory that Angulo can do to Cotto what Margo did is false.
              Correction cintron bareley pulled the angulo win he was so close to being dropped he was gassed out. Did you see at the en of the 12round he couldn't even get on top of the ropes that he was falling down and a member of his camp held him up the ropes to celebrate??? Now don't we always hear that ****** phrase. He bet him so then I should beat him. STYLES MAKES FIGHTS your theory is false. cottos weakness pressure guys with good chins. Angulos style pressure guy with good chin outstanding power go by that don't go with what boxer lost to which opponent.

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              • #77
                I would buy Angulo vs Marg PPV in a heartbeat.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
                  Margarito destroyed Cintron worse than he did Cotto and Cintron schooled Angulo so the theory that Angulo can do to Cotto what Margo did is false.
                  Smartest post I have read on here.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by periks19 View Post
                    Correction cintron bareley pulled the angulo win he was so close to being dropped he was gassed out. Did you see at the en of the 12round he couldn't even get on top of the ropes that he was falling down and a member of his camp held him up the ropes to celebrate??? Now don't we always hear that ****** phrase. He bet him so then I should beat him. STYLES MAKES FIGHTS your theory is false. cottos weakness pressure guys with good chins. Angulos style pressure guy with good chin outstanding power go by that don't go with what boxer lost to which opponent.
                    You must of watched a different fight than the rest of us because Cintron won that fight easily.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
                      Margarito destroyed Cintron worse than he did Cotto and Cintron schooled Angulo so the theory that Angulo can do to Cotto what Margo did is false.
                      I know triangle theories don't work, but when Cotto fights a guy who is naturally bigger than him and Tony and pretty much has the same style of fighting, its EXTREMELY possible to see a repeat of Tony vs Cotto if he fights Angulo.

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