Notice: Floyd Mayweather Jr. DID NOT "Out-Skill" JMM

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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #41
    Originally posted by o0P4PBOXING0o
    So countering is not classed as punching? Marquez hit Pacquiao totally at will. Blasting him over and over with lead right hands and left hooks. Yet he couldn't land anything significent on Floyd Mayweather?

    Hate all you want but the facts speak for themselves.
    nobody's hating. I had Mayweather winning every round against marquez. All i've been saying is that Marquez initiated the action everytime in that fight which is the worst aspect of his skills. Marquez is a wonderful counterpuncher but a horrible offensive fighter. the very reason why the thought of trying to finish marquez never even crossed floyd's mind. because it would have played right into what marquez does best.

    whereas againt pacquiao, what pacquiao does best just so happened to also fit right into what marquez does best.

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    • BoxingFanFirst
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      #42
      Lol what!!!!!!!

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      • TBear
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        #43
        The men in red here that live to praise Mayweather do have a point, Marquez was so lethargic and slow with the added weight Mayweather was able to outbox Marquez. But the TS has a point too, Mayweather was so much bigger still he was able to overpower Marquez.

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        • them_apples
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          #44
          Originally posted by DoubleMM
          JMM landed more at a better percentage

          next.
          yea he did, he did it all by counter punching. you seriously don't know anything about boxing and are fooling yourself if you think Marquez is known for his offense.

          Ever seen Marquez vs Gainer? You know how awkward he looked against him?

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          • -Antonio-
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            #45
            Yeah that perfectly timed lead left hybrid hook/uppercut kd was all because of size. Floyd bouncing his jab off JMM's face was all because he's the much bigger man.

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            • them_apples
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              #46
              Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
              nobody's hating. I had Mayweather winning every round against marquez. All i've been saying is that Marquez initiated the action everytime in that fight which is the worst aspect of his skills. Marquez is a wonderful counterpuncher but a horrible offensive fighter. the very reason why the thought of trying to finish marquez never even crossed floyd's mind. because it would have played right into what marquez does best.

              whereas againt pacquiao, what pacquiao does best just so happened to also fit right into what marquez does best.
              exactly, very good post. A class student of the game.

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              • PureBoxer
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                #47
                Marquez is a limited fighter, which is why he was out-boxed by Chris John and Floyd Mayweather Jr. His style is suited for one-dimensional punchers such as Manny Pacquiao - who's rhythm is easily timed.

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                • Come∂ian
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by baracuda
                  is this your site?.........shut the **** up then
                  So you pointlessly hate on mayweather and ride Pacquiao's **** like an mary go round because I dont own this site.........dumbass logic 101 I see. Its always fascinating to see how a ****** thinks thanks for the insight dip ****.

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                  • them_apples
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Antonio-
                    Yeah that perfectly timed lead left hybrid hook/uppercut kd was all because of size. Floyd bouncing his jab off JMM's face was all because he's the much bigger man.
                    yea it was, Marquez was fat and slow at 147, Mayweather was fast and strong. Marquez ate it flush.

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                    • HitmanHattonAY
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ILLuminato
                      It's true.

                      The reason why Floyd won is because a good big guy always beats a good little guy. When you fight lighter/smaller guys you're more relaxed because it doesn't require as much work, and it's in reverse when you fight bigger guys. As a result, fighters begin to tire and slow down, and it looks to be a mismatch, but it's really the size difference. If you don't believe me, go to the gym and spar with a smaller kid who's a little bit better than you technically but not as old/heavy as you naturally and you will see. Floyd had all the advantages in the fight, and easily won. But it was NOT because of a technical mismatch.

                      Juan Manuel Marquez actually laid the blueprint on how to get to Mayweather. And Marquez landed clean shots throughout the fight (especially early), although they were not effective because JMM is no Welterweight. Juan was timing Mayweather before Juan got knocked down espcialy you could see Juan timing the leaping left hook especially. Something that I picked up on Floyd and Shane should use this over and over is to time Mayweather's lead hook. Floyd throws the punch (or steps in with the jab to the body) ONLY when his opponent takes a half step back (a get out of range step). Marquez picked up on it and was using it. If Mosley exploits this tendency, he won't land a weak but clean punch, he'll knocke Mayweather out.

                      If you thought Mayweather looked good with his defense and offense against Marquez, and you think he'll do the same to Mosley, THINK AGAIN.
                      Originally posted by grlegend
                      you might wanna rewatch the fight without your hater shades and you will see the skill. If he wanted to just big man jmm he would have stopped him.
                      Originally posted by baracuda
                      he outsized him tho........lol

                      mayweather outboxed marquez. marquez beat pacquiao in most peoples eyes so he was p4p best.

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