Notice: Floyd Mayweather Jr. DID NOT "Out-Skill" JMM

[them_apples]

Mayweather beats a prime Marquez every day of the week. He's too fast. JMM is not good enough initiating the action, like someone else said. Floyd countered his counter punches, and made sure he controlled the range. It's an impossible fight for Marquez.

I'd be inclined to agree, but I think Marquez gives him a better fight at 130, and I don't think Floyd stops him or comes close to it.

[BoxingFanFirst]

No. Not overpower. Oversized, Marquez was.


Dude....you have Andre Dirrell as a Future P4P King and ATG after looking good for 3 or 4 rounds against an UNDERSIZED Abraham. If you want to see the difference size makes look at that fight. I'm a patriot but if Andre Dirrell is America's best hope, it's a sad day. Get out of here with your ignorance. Andre Dirrell is so terrible. I hope he gets disabled and never has to fight again.

Lol.. What an idiot. First off. He dominated Froch. He beat the **** out of AA 10 of 11 rds, and now that was from a size advantage? i cant believe how ****** you are. You're basing everyone beating someone off of size.

Theres a reason I say future.. Key ****ing word dip****. If you dont see anything good in Dirrell, I cant take you seriously. Oh wait. I already dont take you seriously.

[ILLuminato]

If Mayweather fought Marquez at 130, and ATTACKED him all night long, you think he would dominate Marquez?

Mayweather sat back, and pot shotted the slower fat Marquez from a distance. The second he would try to finish Marquez is the second he would eat a 3 punch combination. You could see the frustration.

Exactly. Marquez was catching Floyd when he mixed it up.

JMM got schooled by floyd,and the funny thing is floyd only used 2% of his skill to beat JMM...someone like pacquiao who only knows how to brawl might need to give 100% but not floyd..hes to smart hes too good.

FLoyd used 2%.....get out of here with tht bull****. Pacquiao knocked Marquez down 3 times in one fight. Pacquiao maybe gave 100 percent more agianst Hatton and DLH but look Floyd didn't looke good in those fights. We know that Pac gave 100 more than Floyd agianst Cotto because Floyd would never in a million years fight prime Cotto before Margarito.

[DiLLiNGER]

pavlik had the right strategy for martinez and everything was going according to plan until he got that 2nd cut and couldnt execute the gameplan of cutting off the ring anymore due to lost sight.

But that's a completely different topic. maybe you should make a thread about it.

No i don't think I should make a thread about it..I'm not a lil ***** like these floyd haters who poison this forum with their ****ty threads who dont even make sense.

Now you defending pavlik and saying that the cut was the reason why he lost the fight might suggest you that it's time for you to follow a different sport..pavlik looked like **** from the get go..he has no skills he has nothing..the only thing he use to posses was a strong right..but looks like he lost that too..someone who doesn't know how to box won't succeed with the best game plan.

[ILLuminato]

Lol.. What an idiot. First off. He dominated Froch. He beat the **** out of AA 10 of 11 rds.

Theres a reason I say future.. Key ****ing word dip****. If you dont see anything good in Dirrell, I cant take you seriously. Oh wait. I already dont take you seriously.

I see a mentally weak sloppy fighter. The undersized AA was ready to KO that bum. I see athleticsm, I see NOTHING special. If Dirrell "dominated" Froch and was something special he'd have taken the decision. Roy Jones would never lose a decision to a guy like Froch when he was coming up. Dirrell is a bum and a quitter. We do know that.

[Calilloyd]

IF he were smaller. Then why did he come in overweight and had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to Marquez? Mayweather was supposed to be 144. If he was Marquez's size he would've came in on point. Obviously Mayweather is much bigger.

Size makes a much bigger difference than any of you realize.

Shane's punches are a longer than Marquez's too. The wya Mayweather slips is right in line for Mosley to KTFO the bum. Mayweather and his bloodline is going back to mediocrity. His uncles were nothing special, his daddy wasn't special. Floyd isn't and never was that special.

Roger was a two time world champion. I won't even mention Mayweather jr or his father. What have you ever done in your so called "athletic" life other than "studying" boxing that competes with that? Or qualifies you to claim these boxers are nothing special? Typing behind a keyboard doesnt cut it and makes you look like a buffoon. You are clearly showing yourself to be incompetent tonight.

[intoccabile]

What are you trying to prove? I don't get it.

That marquez is only good when people continuously attack him. He can't find his rhythm unless his opponent is trying to move him back, crowd him, swarm him, or out work him.

No mater what weight class him and floyd fight at, floyd will NEVER fight the fight that marquez wants people to fight against him. It doesn't matter if it's 147 or 130.. floyd will always sit and wait for marquez.. and marquez, not being as stubborn as floyd (and often times will engage first in order to get a pulse out of his opponent, so he can counter) will always come to floyd, not the other way around... and THATS the worst part of his game.

Floyd always out thinks, out smarts, out counters, and outboxes marquez for the simple fact that he will never give marquez a chance to counter. Unless marquez can adapt and Counter Floyds Counters (and, often times, floyd hit marquez, then moved and countered marquezes counter) he will never win.

[ILLuminato]

Why does criticism of Floyd automatically mean we are "hating". You guys are such women. You guys really are like a bunch of women when it comes to criticizing Mayweather.

[BoxingFanFirst]

I see a mentally weak sloppy fighter. The undersized AA was ready to KO that bum. I see athleticsm, I see NOTHING special. If Dirrell "dominated" Froch and was something special he'd have taken the decision. Roy Jones would never lose a decision to a guy like Froch when he was coming up. Dirrell is a bum and a quitter. We do know that.

He is??? Alright well have fun troll.

I don't waste my time with idiots like you. You remind me of Jack Ruby.

[o0P4PBOXING0o]

nobody's hating. I had Mayweather winning every round against marquez. All i've been saying is that Marquez initiated the action everytime in that fight which is the worst aspect of his skills. Marquez is a wonderful counterpuncher but a horrible offensive fighter. the very reason why the thought of trying to finish marquez never even crossed floyd's mind. because it would have played right into what marquez does best.

whereas againt pacquiao, what pacquiao does best just so happened to also fit right into what marquez does best.

You said Mayweather didnt outskill Marquez? I don't get it. He outlanded him 290 to 69. Forget saying Marquez is a terrible offensive fighter, I know he likes to counter punch but his offence was good enough to beat most of the guys he fought. Why was Marquez able to land at will against Pacquiao and hardly land at all against Mayweather? It has nothing to do with size, It's all about skills.

People will say Mayweather won because Marquez is a counter puncher. That's a ****** thing to say as Floyd is a counter puncher too. So it makes no difference. The thing is that in addition to counter punching Mayweather is also a very good defensive fighter (unlike Marquez) and can use the jab and right hand better than Marquez. This is why he beat him so convingly, Because he has more aspects to his game than Marquez does.