I think Cotto CAN beat Martinez

[savorduhflavor]

Another thing is that if Cotto weights 160+ pounds fight night, how much of a size advantage will Sergio have 2 or 3 pounds?

And it doesn't even matter because Martinez doesn't use his size. If he gets his way he's fighting on the outside the entire fight.

Plus, MARTINEZ IS NOT A MIDDLEWEIGHT.

Christ, he's a small JMW. Martinez and Cotto are 1 weight class apart.

[Toney Loc]

Another thing is that if Cotto weights 160+ pounds fight night, how much of a size advantage will Sergio have 2 or 3 pounds?

That's how much he weighed at WW. I think we'll have to wait and see how much he weighs against Foreman to see how much he rehydrates at JMW.

[savorduhflavor]

That's how much he weighed at WW. I think we'll have to wait and see how much he weighs against Foreman to see how much he rehydrates at JMW.

Yup...and more importantly, how he carries the weight.

That's one thing about Sergio...he carried the weight very well.

[Toney Loc]

Yup...and more importantly, how he carries the weight.

That's one thing about Sergio...he carried the weight very well.

I got an aching erection watching Sergio fight. Some people think that's gay but I think that's just normal considering it was Sexy Sergio Martinez.

[Heru]

Martinez is all wrong for Cotto.

Martinez takes away orthodox fighters' jabs, which is one of Cotto's main weapons, and damages them in the process. One of the reasons I picked him over Pavlik is because I knew this. He catches jabs and comes over the top with his own jab every time, he doesn't stop trying it either.

A couple of Cotto's advantages at 140 and somewhat at 147 was his strength and bruising power. He won't have that at 154. Martinez would be bigger, stronger, and faster, it's very, very, very hard to win with all those advantages against you, especially against someone with good skills, chin, and heart to match.

Martinez KO8

[Johnny Doomzday]

Just to clarify for ******s...CAN as in is capable of...not I think he WOULD beat him.

If Cotto beats Foreman impressively, at this stage in his career, why not try and grab the lineal Middleweight crown?

Before I get called a "stan"....although I'd be surprised if I was as most know me...I think Cotto gets absolutely mauled by pretty much all of the top guys at 154-160.....PWill, Pavlik, Angulo, Kirkland...those guys all brutally stop Cotto.



Martinez's style is one that gives Cotto a chance. He's bigger but he doesn't use his size...he's not a volume puncher or that big of a puncher.

Cotto has trouble with big pressure fighters and/or fighters who throw a lot.

Now before people make the Pacquiao comparison....Martinez is not as fast(his hand speed is SEVERELY overrated) and he doesn't throw 5 and 6 punch combinations like Pacquiao.

Martinez is also nowhere near as slick as people make him out to be. Freaking Kelly Pavlik landed 45% of his power punches on him. Cotto is more accurate than Pavlik and Williams.

I'm not saying Cotto would beat Martinez. If I had to pick, even if Cotto carries 154 well, I'd still probably pick Martinez.

But it's a winnable fight, and if Cotto won it'd be an ideal way to go out for him.

You make some fair points and I can see how you could pick Cotto to have the STYLE ADVANTAGE.

[Roxas]

foreman will beat cotto imo

i doubt he has much left,he will be the next jermain taylor

^^^^^ this....

[savorduhflavor]

Martinez is all wrong for Cotto.

Martinez takes away orthodox fighters' jabs, which is one of Cotto's main weapons, and damages them in the process. One of the reasons I picked him over Pavlik is because I knew this. He catches jabs and comes over the top with his own jab every time, he doesn't stop trying it either.

A couple of Cotto's advantages at 140 and somewhat at 147 was his strength and bruising power. He won't have that at 154. Martinez would be bigger, stronger, and faster, it's very, very, very hard to win with all those advantages against you, especially against someone with good skills, chin, and heart to match.

Martinez KO8

First actual analysis I've seen....green K to you.

My counter however....Martinez is a rhythm fighter. That rhythm, as I felt Pavlik showed, could actually be disrupted by a timed jab. If there's one thing Cotto's got, it's timing.

Martinez is there to be hit, and Cotto is more accurate than Pavlik or Williams...and you can close the distance on him. Cotto places his punches well, and Martinez doesn't put together a lot of combinations unless he's facing a guy not throwing back(Pavlik after the cut).

Cotto has problems with combination punchers. If Martinez circles and jumps in with the one two and occasional right hook, I think Cotto can weather that...although all of this is contingent on him carrying the weight well and him not being totally shot.

I think Cotto's stamina, or lack thereof, would be his ultimate downfall but like I said...in my opinion, the ONE guy that Cotto would have a chance against won the lineal MW championship....why not give it a go?

[Pullcounter]

Just to clarify for ******s...CAN as in is capable of...not I think he WOULD beat him.

If Cotto beats Foreman impressively, at this stage in his career, why not try and grab the lineal Middleweight crown?

Before I get called a "stan"....although I'd be surprised if I was as most know me...I think Cotto gets absolutely mauled by pretty much all of the top guys at 154-160.....PWill, Pavlik, Angulo, Kirkland...those guys all brutally stop Cotto.

Martinez's style is one that gives Cotto a chance. He's bigger but he doesn't use his size...he's not a volume puncher or that big of a puncher.

Cotto has trouble with big pressure fighters and/or fighters who throw a lot.

Now before people make the Pacquiao comparison....Martinez is not as fast(his hand speed is SEVERELY overrated) and he doesn't throw 5 and 6 punch combinations like Pacquiao.

Martinez is also nowhere near as slick as people make him out to be. Freaking Kelly Pavlik landed 45% of his power punches on him. Cotto is more accurate than Pavlik and Williams.

I'm not saying Cotto would beat Martinez. If I had to pick, even if Cotto carries 154 well, I'd still probably pick Martinez.

But it's a winnable fight, and if Cotto won it'd be an ideal way to go out for him.

lets see how cotto does w/ foreman first.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Can we see if hes shot first?