Top 10 P4P Today

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He still on the top 10 list... Nobody in their right mind would take him out... Now if he goes up to 160 and gets hammered sure he should keep his spot if it against an elite MW...

Floyd can go to 168 and fight Dirrell or Ward or any elite SMW and get beat every round. Is no way he should lose his spot...

Because, It is P4P not divisional rankings...

You still have to follow it up with something.

Diaz
Morales
Hatton

All rumored JMM opponents. Naw I dont see it. Hes winding his career down and should be treated as such.

Now had he fought Khan or Soto or somebody. Id feel different. I just sense a pattern here with him.

[dorruel2.0]

No one CLEARLY won that fight. It was extremely close.

Martinez just beat Pavlik, but Williams beat Martinez.

So how is a Pav win better then any win Williams has?

I, and most believe Williams lost that fight, if you think Williams won thats great, 2 of the judges did too.
Martinez beat Pavlik for the linear Crown, Williams got a victory i dont think he deserved.

Pavlik>>Margarito(good win),Phillips(old and shot to ****),Quintana(after Quintana schooled him, and Cotto did the job in 5, whereas Williams took 13 rounds even after softened up by Miguel),Wright(............)

[Shadows]

Wards win over Kessler, is bigger than any wins either Hasegawa or Moreno have, altho those two are deff outstanding fighters, and deserve an honorable mention, i believe Ward is the #1 super middleweight, and we all know how many sharks are in that division since that Fraud Calzaghe left.

I disagree, Hasegawa's first win over Veeraphol Sahaprom is as big if not bigger than Ward's over Kessler.

Also, Moreno may not have a huge win akin to Ward's over Kessler, but his resume is better. Ward's notable wins are over Kessler and Miranda. Moreno has Sidorenko twice in Germany, Cermeno in Venezuela, Monshipour in France, and has a win early in his career over former super flyweight titlist Felix Machado. He even had a couple of wins over decent journey men on the way up.

[dorruel2.0]

What about their 2nd bets wins? And, third best wins? Just the overall body of work lets say in the last two years is Ward still over them cuz of ONE WIN, ONE WiN... And, take this into consideration.

When was Kessler last good win? 3 YEARS AGO AGAINST LIBRADO ANDRADE. Who apparently now is a bum to some posters on here...

Kessler was the tourney fav, and the #1 fighter in the division, with the best RESUME was he not??
Ward beat his ass like Mikkel owed him money, something that Joe was unable to do.....dominate and win every round

[dorruel2.0]

I disagree, Hasegawa's first win over Veeraphol Sahaprom is as big if not bigger than Ward's over Kessler.

Also, Moreno may not have a huge win akin to Ward's over Kessler, but his resume is better. Ward's notable wins are over Kessler and Miranda. Moreno has Sidorenko twice in Germany, Cermeno in Venezuela, Monshipour in France, and has a win early in his career over former super flyweight titlist Felix Machado. He even had a couple of wins over decent journey men on the way up.

None of those fighters were ranked higher than Kessler was P4P before Ward beat him sorry, look up old ring rankings if you dont believe me.

[dorruel2.0]

You still have to follow it up with something.

Diaz
Morales
Hatton

All rumored JMM opponents. Naw I dont see it. Hes winding his career down and should be treated as such.

Now had he fought Khan or Soto or somebody. Id feel different. I just sense a pattern here with him.

if you think that a fighter who was P4P #2 just 7 months ago, should be taken out of the top ten, because he lost to (in my opinion) the best fighter in the world with a HUGE weight advantage, then you must be effing kidding me lol

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

if you think that a fighter who was P4P #2 just 7 months ago, should be taken out of the top ten, because he lost to (in my opinion) the best fighter in the world with a HUGE weight advantage, then you must be effing kidding me lol

You gotta read my reason why. You skipped over it.

If hes fighting a shot Diaz.

Then a shot Hatton.

Then a shot Morales.

Im sorry hes off the list. He had a chance to fight a good opponent. He chose a shot Juan Diaz.

[dorruel2.0]

You gotta read my reason why. You skipped over it.

If hes fighting a shot Diaz.

Then a shot Hatton.

Then a shot Morales.

Im sorry hes off the list. He had a chance to fight a good opponent. He chose a shot Juan Diaz.

lmao have you checked the ring recently Marquez, shane, and even Cotto are ahead of Williams, and after it gets updated next week Sergio will be too, perhaps im the one who should be sorry that your opinion is so far from reality.

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None of those fighters were ranked higher than Kessler was P4P before Ward beat him sorry, look up old ring rankings if you dont believe me.

Seeing as none of them were ranked top ten P4P, I checked The Ring 100.

Ward beat Kessler in November of 2009. Kessler was #20 as published in January 2009.

Hasegawa beat Sahaprom the first time in April of 2005. Sahaprom was #14 as published in December 2004.

[dorruel2.0]

Seeing as none of them were ranked top ten P4P, I checked The Ring 100.

Ward beat Kessler in November of 2009. Kessler was #20 as published in January 2009.

Hasegawa beat Sahaprom the first time in April of 2005. Sahaprom was #14 as published in December 2004.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6077&cat=boxer



the mans record was padded to say the least. He makes Sven Ottke look like Ray Leanard.
If what you read was true which i doubt, then why dont you just look at the record i sent you ....and compare and contrast it with Kesslers, **** start a poll if you want.
Kessler>Sahapom