Top 10 P4P Today

[jrosales13]

Pacquiao
Mayweather
Mosley
Martinez
Marquez
Bradley
Dawson
Williams
Cotto
Ward

Why is Martinez so far ahead of Williams on your list?

But, do you think Ward has a better resume then Hasegawa or Moreno?

Skill wise all 3 are up there. They pretty even but resume wise is not even close...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Is Floyd not an elite fighter?

Was Floyd not fighting in his weight-class?

Did JMM belong at that weight-class?

He is rematching a fight that was called FOTY last year. Who should he be fighting? Somebody who can not even make 140 for a 135lb fight? Or somebody who takes banned substances to make 135? Or somebody who just died? Or maybe fight somebody who lost to that same shot fighter?

If Dawson fought Haye at HW and gets dominated cuz he would get dominated and lose every round against Haye at HW. Dawson should be taken off the list...

JMM had a chance to fight Valero, Mitchell, Katsidis, Guzman, Funeka, Peterson, Khan and Soto.

He chose a shot Diaz. Inexcusable.

Like I said in the other thread. JMM doesnt get a freebie because he moved up. you lose, you drop down.

Because had he won people wouldve ranked him over Pacquiao. You move up and challenge yourself and get waxed you dont keep ur ranking. You still lost.

If Floyd moved up and fought Williams at 154 and got waxed does he still keep his Number 2 ranking. No way.

[Slick_Rick]

Err.. why are people putting Ward and Dirrell in their p4p list, they've only won one meaningful fight, and in Dirrell's case we don't even know he would have ended up winning.

[dorruel2.0]

Why is Martinez so far ahead of Williams on your list?

But, do you think Ward has a better resume then Hasegawa or Moreno?

Skill wise all 3 are up there. They pretty even but resume wise is not even close...

Wards win over Kessler, is bigger than any wins either Hasegawa or Moreno have, altho those two are deff outstanding fighters, and deserve an honorable mention, i believe Ward is the #1 super middleweight, and we all know how many sharks are in that division since that Fraud Calzaghe left.

[jrosales13]

JMM had a chance to fight Valero, Mitchell, Katsidis, Guzman, Funeka, Peterson, Khan and Soto.

He chose a shot Diaz. Inexcusable.

Like I said in the other thread. JMM doesnt get a freebie because he moved up. you lose, you drop down.

Because had he won people wouldve ranked him over Pacquiao. You move up and challenge yourself and get waxed you dont keep ur ranking. You still lost.

If Floyd moved up and fought Williams at 154 and got waxed does he still keep his Number 2 ranking. No way.

Oh OK that is right... What he should of done is sit out since you can keep your spot that way...

And, is P4P not divisional rankings FFS's... Just cuz you lose don't mean you lose a spot... Especially if you fighting a weight-class you don't belong in...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Oh OK that is right... What he should of done is sit out since you can keep your spot that way...

And, is P4P not divisional rankings FFS's... Just cuz you lose don't mean you lose a spot... Especially if you fighting a weight-class you don't belong in...

So if Pac moves up to 154 and gets hammered hes still the P4P Number 1?

[dorruel2.0]

Why is Martinez so far ahead of Williams on your list?

But, do you think Ward has a better resume then Hasegawa or Moreno?

Skill wise all 3 are up there. They pretty even but resume wise is not even close...

i have Martinez that far ahead of Williams because i thought he clearly beat Williams, he just beat Pavlik, who is far better than any win Williams has, and because Martinez shouldv KOed and UD Cintron in 1 night....and guess who Williams next opponent is?........
oh did i mention that hes the linear middleweight champ, AND the WBC jr middleweight champ.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

i have Martinez that far ahead of Williams because i thought he clearly beat Williams, he just beat Pavlik, who is far better than any win Williams has, and because Martinez shouldv KOed and UD Cintron in 1 night....and guess who Williams next opponent is?

No one CLEARLY won that fight. It was extremely close.

Martinez just beat Pavlik, but Williams beat Martinez.

So how is a Pav win better then any win Williams has?

[jrosales13]

Wards win over Kessler, is bigger than any wins either Hasegawa or Moreno have, altho those two are deff outstanding fighters, and deserve an honorable mention, i believe Ward is the #1 super middleweight, and we all know how many sharks are in that division since that Fraud Calzaghe left.

What about their 2nd bets wins? And, third best wins? Just the overall body of work lets say in the last two years is Ward still over them cuz of ONE WIN, ONE WiN... And, take this into consideration.

When was Kessler last good win? 3 YEARS AGO AGAINST LIBRADO ANDRADE. Who apparently now is a bum to some posters on here...

[jrosales13]

So if Pac moves up to 154 and gets hammered hes still the P4P Number 1?

He still on the top 10 list... Nobody in their right mind would take him out... Now if he goes up to 160 and gets hammered sure he should keep his spot if it against an elite MW...

Floyd can go to 168 and fight Dirrell or Ward or any elite SMW and get beat every round. Is no way he should lose his spot...

Because, It is P4P not divisional rankings...