Top 10 P4P Today

[Jim Jeffries]

Martinez over Williams I dont agree with.

Donaire, Cab and JMM I also dont agree with.

I think Bradley, Ward and Dirrell should be in over them.

Yet you have Mosley over Cotto. Funny how that is.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Yet you have Mosley over Cotto. Funny how that is.

You have to be kidding me?

Cotto beat Mosley in 2007.

Marg beat Cotto in 2008.

Mosley beat Marg in 2009.


You dont get how Mosley is ranked over Cotto. Like are you being serious right now?

[Jim Jeffries]

You have to be kidding me?

Cotto beat Mosley in 2007.

Marg beat Cotto in 2008.

Mosley beat Marg in 2009.


You dont get how Mosley is ranked over Cotto. Like are you being serious right now?

Marg was found out to be a cheater, that win has no meaning.

[Stromprophet]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Paul Williams
5. Shane Mosley
6. Nonito Donaire
7. JM Marquez
8. Chad Dawson
9. Lucian Bute
10. Celestino Caballero

1) Why are neither of the Klitschko Bros. on anyone's list? Say what you will about the HW division being dead, Wladimir is at least in the top 10 if not the top 5.

2) All the sudden everyone is in love with Sergio Martinez? If there's something I can't stand it's bandwagon fans. He's not top 5 P4P, who has he fought?

Don't tell me about straight wins coming out of Argentina. He's had 2 controversial fights against Kermit Cintron and Paul Williams, good and elite fighters, and as far as I'm concerned another one he would not have won if not for cutting Pavlik. Pavlik was winning the fight at that point.

3) Arthur Abraham?

JMM yes, Chad Dawson yes, Paul Williams yes, Shane Mosely yes. Also any top 10 list without Israel Vazquez and Rafeal Marquez is nonsense.

My list:

1) Manny Pacquiao
2) Floyd Mayweather (Which I begrudgingly say. There's never been a more inactive and over rated champion IMO. Mayweather has 2, count them, 2 Hall of Fame fights. That is all. Look at any GOT HOF candidate, they have at least 5 HOF fights, and many of them close to 10 HOF fights) - For reference, the man above him, Manny has 8 HOF fights.
3) Paul Williams
4) Bhop, though out of the mainstream game, I don't care. Superman is ageless.
5) Shane Mosely
6) Wladimir Klitschko
7) Israel Vazquez
8) JMM
9) Rafeal Marquez
10) Chad Dawson

Honorable mentions, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, maybe Doinare.

[Stromprophet]

Marg was found out to be a cheater, that win has no meaning

I would agree. Unfortunately, time and wins are what matter. When was your last win. Cotto, beat Clottey, but that's not as good as Shanes annihilation of Margarito. Cotto got barn burned by Manny.

I like Cotto, and I can only imagine his career may have been going into the stratosphere had Margarito not nearly ruined him with illegal objects. I think Cotto lost something in that fight unfortunately.

Cotto must rise back to get on my list. IMO, Cotto could become an HOF fighter. As long as he's not fighting Manny. Cotto can best just about anyone IMO with the exception of perhaps Floyd, and for sure Manny.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Marg was found out to be a cheater, that win has no meaning.

So why do say Cotto should be ranked over Mosley since he beat him?

Considering.



Mosley was found out to be a cheater, that win has no meaning.

This is too easy.

[mathed]

To me the K bros don't count. They are good but where do you place them in a P4P ranking? They will never move down in weight and they can't move up and given their size advantages, they would likely beat all other fighters.

[Stromprophet]

So why do say Cotto should be ranked over Mosley since he beat him?

Considering.

Mosley was found out to be a cheater, that win has no meaning.

This is too easy.

When was Mosely accused of Steroids or whatever it was? Wasn't it 2003 when he had to testify, what exactly did that have to do with the Cotto fight? Which Mosely lost.

So the fight shouldn't count, because 1 guy supposedly used drugs 7 years ago, and lost the fight with Cotto?

Yeah, it is too easy. Apparently so easy you can't see how a win using plaster inserts shouldn't be counted.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

When was Mosely accused of Steroids or whatever it was? Wasn't it 2003 when he had to testify, what exactly did that have to do with the Cotto fight? Which Mosely lost.

So the fight shouldn't count, because 1 guy supposedly used drugs 7 years ago, and lost the fight with Cotto?

Yeah, it is too easy. Apparently so easy you can't see how a win using plaster inserts shouldn't be counted.

How do we know Shane wasnt doped his whole career?

You missing my point. That poster doesnt understand how Mosley is ranked higher then Cotto since Cotto beat him.


Then he says Pauls win vs. Marg doesnt count because Marg is a cheater. Umm shouldnt Paul get more credit if Marg was plasterd up and Paul still beat him? I dont get how it doesnt count.

[Stromprophet]

To me the K bros don't count. They are good but where do you place them in a P4P ranking? They will never move down in weight and they can't move up and given their size advantages, they would likely beat all other fighters.

Well, I gave my list. Vitali isn't on it, maybe an honorable mention, but he was retired too long, hasn't fought enough.

Wladimir is because he came back from being KOd to become the dominate Heavyweight not only against legit competition, but also besting one of the men who knocked him out cold, with his own KO (technically his trainer stopped the fight, but that was mercy)

Not only that, but he does what heavy weights should do, KO people.

He deserves it just out of top consistent competition, winning, and being impressive. I didn't put him at the top of the list, because obviously there's simply more talent at the lower weight classes.