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  • #41
    Originally posted by slipjab73 View Post
    Disorienting Mayweather's rhythm doesn't stop him from changing and adjusting in a fight. De La Hoya used his jab and its a hell of a lot better than Mosley's. The problem is once Floyd figures out your game he then turns on his. Floyd will keep Mosley in the middle of the ring for this fight more than he has his past fights.
    True, DLH has a much better jab than Mosley. He always did, and that's because he's a converted southpaw,meaning he fights in orthodox stance, and his left hand is his dominant and natural hand. That helps quite a bit in the jab contest, especially against Mosley who is naturally right handed, so obviously his jab is inferior in comparison in this case. You could say Oscar's right hand wasn't **** and you would be right, he was all left hand. Shane on the other hand has a mean left hook and a freight train right hand, so it's all in how you see it I guess.

    My question to you is this, who says Shane is going to chase Mayweather? What if Shane decides to fluster Mayweather and wait him out for a counter?
    Floyd can outpoint him this way, but has anyone ever waited Mayweather out patiently and countered him for a change? What does he do then to capitalize on Mosley, being a defensive and safety first fighter?

    This seems highly unlikely, but I hope it doesn't happen. Floyd is the king of outpointing people in boring decisions( Baldomir anyone?) so I hope to god that it doesn't play out this way.
    Last edited by mrosborne; 04-19-2010, 08:38 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by yesir View Post
      do you have proof that roger "beat" this chic up? NO, you dont.

      now you just displayed your ignorance.

      and naazim did make himself look like an ass, when he started talking about being a street cat and tried to validated whether or not someone else was street too..

      like its some badge of honor.

      this is tv and they are all human but dont sit here and act like Naazim was Ghandi or something b/c hes not
      Very good post! Much respect.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by mrosborne View Post
        True, DLH has a much better jab than Mosley. He always did, and that's because he's a converted southpaw,meaning he fights in orthodox stance, and his left hand is his dominant and natural hand. That helps quite a bit in the jab contest, especially against Mosley who is naturally right handed, so obviously his jab is inferior in comparison in this case. You could say Oscar's right hand wasn't **** and you would be right, he was all left hand. Shane on the other hand has a mean left hook and a freight train right hand, so it's all in how you see it I guess.

        My question to you is this, who says Shane is going to chase Mayweather? What if Shane decides to fluster Mayweather and wait him out for a counter?
        Floyd can outpoint him this way, but has anyone ever waited Mayweather out patiently and countered him for a change? What does he do then to capitalize on Mosley, being a defensive and safety first fighter?

        This seems highly unlikely, but I hope it doesn't happen. Floyd is the king of outpointing people in boring decisions( Baldomir anyone?) so I hope to god that it doesn't play out this way.
        The Baldomir fight wasn't boring. It was boring because of the many haters that wanted to see him lose! Plus Floyd hurt his hand in that fight and still won all the rounds. When will the guy get some credit? How many times did Mosley or Pacquiao hurt their hands in a fight and finish the fight dominating? How many times did they hurt their hands period? None? And yet those guys are called the warriors.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Tweezy316 View Post
          The Baldomir fight wasn't boring. It was boring because of the many haters that wanted to see him lose! Plus Floyd hurt his hand in that fight and still won all the rounds. When will the guy get some credit? How many times did Mosley or Pacquiao hurt their hands in a fight and finish the fight dominating? How many times did they hurt their hands period? None? And yet those guys are called the warriors.
          Well first of all, Floyd should of never fought Baldomir. That was almost as bad as a mismatch that could be made, although you could say Bruseles vs Floyd would take that honor.

          Floyd hurt his hands because he has sissy hands obviously. Real men break their hands and knock people OUT. Say what you will about Arturo Gatti, but he knocked people the **** OUT with broken hands. That's a man.

          And to go even further, Shane got his face pounded by a MUCH bigger man in Vernon Forrest and got knocked down brutally in that fight, the same Vernon Forrest Shane fought in Vernon's prime at the time, and Vernon kicked Shane's ass from pillar to post in that first fight. Know what Shane did? He got up and finished the fight. Did he lose? Yes, but you know what that shows? Balls, and the heart of a champion. We haven't seen that with Floyd yet, but all it takes is Floyd getting hurt, and we will all see how he deals with it then. Until then it's all speculation. Everyone is great and unbeatable until they get hurt/beat down. It's how you get up and deal with it that makes you a champion.
          Last edited by mrosborne; 04-19-2010, 08:59 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by mrosborne View Post
            Well first of all, Floyd should of never fought Baldomir. That was almost as bad as a mismatch that could be made, although you could say Bruseles vs Floyd would take that honor.

            Floyd hurt his hands because he has sissy hands obviously. Real men break their hands and knock people OUT. Say what you will about Arturo Gatti, but he knocked people the **** OUT with broken hands. That's a man.

            And to go even further, Shane got his face pounded by a MUCH bigger man in Vernon Forrest and got knocked down brutally in that fight, the same Vernon Forrest Shane fought in Vernon's prime at the time, and Vernon kicked Shane's ass from pillar to post in that first fight. Know what Shane did? He got up and finished the fight. Did he lose? Yes, but you know what that shows? Balls, and the heart of a champion. We haven't seen that with Floyd yet, but all it takes is Floyd getting hurt, and we will all see how he deals with it then. Until then it's all speculation. Everyone is great and unbeatable until they get hurt/beat down. It's how you get up and deal with it that makes you a champion.

            Floyd was hurt against Chop Chop I believe. You should look at that fight. Brother ****m said it best. He knows if someone really corners Floyd most people are going to see a side of him they missed at 135-140. A lot of people talk about the JLC first fight. Which I still think he lost but, how many people bring up the rematch?

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            • #46
              Also, I belive Oscar got one of the best punches in rd 11 on Mayweather I think he's ever taken. Honestly I think the ropes kept him up! LOL But I don't see Mayweather having a China chin. Plus even if the catches him with the uppercut Shane doesnt have one punch knock out power at 147 and Floyd will adjust if he's caught with it.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by yesir View Post
                do you have proof that roger "beat" this chic up? NO, you dont.

                now you just displayed your ignorance.

                and naazim did make himself look like an ass, when he started talking about being a street cat and tried to validated whether or not someone else was street too..

                like its some badge of honor.

                this is tv and they are all human but dont sit here and act like Naazim was Ghandi or something b/c hes not
                First of all, does Roger already have a history of beating women? Now that you have answered that, why find it so hard to believe this young woman when she says he jumped on her in the apartment? Was Roger not arrested at the scene? If police arrive to the scene of a domestic disturbance, they have to investigate. If there are no visible signs someone was assaulted, they instruct one party to go down to the station to file a report. Apparently Roger roughed her up because they put the iron bracelets on him. Secondly, I knew of Melissa before Roger tried to train her. I was trying to get her modeling gigs. And third, she is a very humble woman. You are free to ask her yourself http://www.facebook.com/people/Melissa-St-Vil/533738242 .

                And if you weren't so attached to Floyds testicle hairs, you'd see ****m was right and Mayweathers own family from past 24/7's confirmed Floyd was spoiled and all he did was box and that he wasnt a street dude. If ****m wasn't a street cat, don't you think Roger and Floyd Sr would be disrespectful as hell towards him? I aint got NONE of them talking about ****m like they talked about Freddie Roach less some brothers in some kufi's show up at Mayweather Boxing Gym and do what James Prince boys did a while back. Bernard talked about it best when he described how they were cleaning up blood in that gym for DAYS. Or how James Prince and Co sat Floyd down in a chair in a Vegas hotel room and beat the breaks off his entourage. Why do you think ALL OF A SUDDEN Floyd has bodygaurds?

                Now step off fanboy

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                • #48
                  I hope floyd wear those goerge lopez shoes

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by mrosborne View Post
                    Well first of all, Floyd should of never fought Baldomir. That was almost as bad as a mismatch that could be made, although you could say Bruseles vs Floyd would take that honor.

                    Floyd hurt his hands because he has sissy hands obviously. Real men break their hands and knock people OUT. Say what you will about Arturo Gatti, but he knocked people the **** OUT with broken hands. That's a man.

                    And to go even further, Shane got his face pounded by a MUCH bigger man in Vernon Forrest and got knocked down brutally in that fight, the same Vernon Forrest Shane fought in Vernon's prime at the time, and Vernon kicked Shane's ass from pillar to post in that first fight. Know what Shane did? He got up and finished the fight. Did he lose? Yes, but you know what that shows? Balls, and the heart of a champion. We haven't seen that with Floyd yet, but all it takes is Floyd getting hurt, and we will all see how he deals with it then. Until then it's all speculation. Everyone is great and unbeatable until they get hurt/beat down. It's how you get up and deal with it that makes you a champion.
                    Based on this comment, you have to be one of the dumbest people on this site. To legitimately criticize a fighter is one thing. To make these type of misinformed statements demonstrates a high level of ignorance. No one thought the Baldomir fight was a mismatch until AFTER the fight was over. In fact, several people, including Larry Merchant, said before the fight that Baldomir was too strong for Floyd and would win the fight.

                    What the hell are sissy hands? How the hell did Floyd manage to get a 62 percent KO rate with sissy hands ? If a fighter has a 69 percent KO percent (like Pacquaio) does that mean he doesn't have sissy hands? Is s63 percent KO rate the cutoff for sissy hands?

                    Please tell us the names of all the world champions that Arturo Gatti knocked out with a broken hand? That Mosley/Forest fight was a lot closer than you claim it was. Mosley got knocked down once, but his face didn't look like Kelly Pavlik's in the Martinez fight. Of course Mosley finished the fight. He was trying to WIN the damn fight? How the hell else can you win a fight without fighting? I guess in your limited mind Floyd will never be a great fighter unless he gets beat down like Pavlik did and comes back to win. If he continues to dominate all his opponents, he will retire as a mediocre undefeated fighter."peeleft:
                    Last edited by big_james10; 04-19-2010, 09:40 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by yesir View Post
                      do you have proof that roger "beat" this chic up? NO, you dont.
                      now you just displayed your ignorance.

                      and naazim did make himself look like an ass, when he started talking about being a street cat and tried to validated whether or not someone else was street too..

                      like its some badge of honor.

                      this is tv and they are all human but dont sit here and act like Naazim was Ghandi or something b/c hes not


                      LOL

                      This is coming from someone with a Pac on Peds Sig.. Talking about needing proof..... and displaying ignorance

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