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  • #51
    Originally posted by Tweezy316 View Post
    oh shut up. you'll see may 1st mayweather will make shane look old as hell and then all of you will come with the excuses. you always tryin to act like you know more than everybody. you ain't my dad back the **** up!! I'm a grown ass man. And i'm gonna speak my mind whether you like it or not!
    speaking your mind and saying completly distorted, irrational, illogical **** are different things.

    if you come to speak about boxing, try making ****ing sense for once.

    dude had what 130 amateur wins and he is a brawler???

    put on some gloves and learn the sport or go to another website and talk about soccer and some ****

    for real man, you are EMBARRASSING yourself

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    • #52
      Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
      Based on this comment, you have to be one of the dumbest people on this site. To legitimately criticize a fighter is one thing. To make these type of misinformed statements demonstrates a high level of ignorance. No one thought the Baldomir fight was a mismatch until AFTER the fight was over. In fact, several people, including Larry Merchant, said before the fight that Baldomir was too strong for Floyd and would win the fight.

      What the hell are sissy hands? How the hell did Floyd manage to get a 62 percent KO rate with sissy hands ? If a fighter has a 69 percent KO percent (like Pacquaio) does that mean he doesn't have sissy hands? Is s63 percent KO rate the cutoff for sissy hands?

      Please tell us the names of all the world champions that Arturo Gatti knocked out with a broken hand? That Mosley/Forest fight was a lot closer than you claim it was. Mosley got knocked down once, but his face didn't look like Kelly Pavlik's in the Martinez fight. Of course Mosley finished the fight. He was trying to WIN the damn fight? How the hell else can you win a fight without fighting? I guess in your limited mind Floyd will never be a great fighter unless he gets beat down like Pavlik did and comes back to win. If he continues to dominate all his opponents, he will retire as a mediocre undefeated fighter."peeleft:
      I can answer these questions for you. It's called Boxrec.com. Floyd got most of his KO's at 130-135 pounds, and hasn't knocked out or finished any opponent of note besides Hatton over that weight. Given the fact that Floyd is a small 147 to begin with, it's not hard to understand why he KO'ed the most at his "natural" size.

      Gatti knocked out two champions I can think of with broken hands. Ruelas and Rodriguez, and to a much smaller degree late in his career, the european prior undefeated champion Damgaaard.

      Baldomir was the heavy underdog in the fight against Floyd. I generally agree with Merchant but you have to consider the fact that Merchant hates Floyd, and always gives him a hard time in every fight he interviews him. Matter of fact, didn't Floyd say "Merchant is great as a commentator, but he don't know nothing about boxing" in that SAME fight you are telling me I am ****** for mentioning? Check your facts, guy.

      And finally, Mayweather is doubted because he never beat ANY champion in their prime, never fought anyone who could beat him, and the only quality wins he has on his resume is against overmatched opponents, over the hill marquee names such as DLH far past his prime, beating Marquez, a 130lb fighter and weighing 147+ pounds at a catchweight fight he was supposed to weigh in much less for, and beating Hatton who was a threat but let's face it as much as I love Hatton as a fighter he was a great champion but NOT a P4P fighter and never will be.

      I see you are very much a Floyd fan, but these are the facts.
      Last edited by mrosborne; 04-19-2010, 10:06 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BoxingScribe View Post
        Understatement. As a black man watching Floyd act ignorant, hearing about Roger beating up in Melissa St Vil, and Sr's corny ass poems, its refreshing to see a black man, and a fellow ****** stealing to show without looking like an ass.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by BoxingScribe View Post
          First of all, does Roger already have a history of beating women? Now that you have answered that, why find it so hard to believe this young woman when she says he jumped on her in the apartment? Was Roger not arrested at the scene? If police arrive to the scene of a domestic disturbance, they have to investigate. If there are no visible signs someone was assaulted, they instruct one party to go down to the station to file a report. Apparently Roger roughed her up because they put the iron bracelets on him. Secondly, I knew of Melissa before Roger tried to train her. I was trying to get her modeling gigs. And third, she is a very humble woman. You are free to ask her yourself http://www.facebook.com/people/Melissa-St-Vil/533738242 .

          And if you weren't so attached to Floyds testicle hairs, you'd see ****m was right and Mayweathers own family from past 24/7's confirmed Floyd was spoiled and all he did was box and that he wasnt a street dude. If ****m wasn't a street cat, don't you think Roger and Floyd Sr would be disrespectful as hell towards him? I aint got NONE of them talking about ****m like they talked about Freddie Roach less some brothers in some kufi's show up at Mayweather Boxing Gym and do what James Prince boys did a while back. Bernard talked about it best when he described how they were cleaning up blood in that gym for DAYS. Or how James Prince and Co sat Floyd down in a chair in a Vegas hotel room and beat the breaks off his entourage. Why do you think ALL OF A SUDDEN Floyd has bodygaurds?

          Now step off fanboy
          Realness!!!

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          • #55
            Originally posted by amayseng View Post
            speaking your mind and saying completly distorted, irrational, illogical **** are different things.

            if you come to speak about boxing, try making ****ing sense for once.

            dude had what 130 amateur wins and he is a brawler???

            put on some gloves and learn the sport or go to another website and talk about soccer and some ****

            for real man, you are EMBARRASSING yourself
            you can hop off my d*ck anytime now! Just because it makes no sense to your limited brain you think that bothers me? nope. just like i said i'm a grown ass man. you want me to go to another website come make me! I'd love to see you try. You talkin real big but I highly doubt you are.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by amayseng View Post
              one adjustment just to brawl?
              did he brawl against cotto? collazo? dlh? margacheato?

              come on now man, i know you are a floyd fan, but your just way off with the sport itself.

              try to come correct, you are embarrassing yourself.

              if u disect the marg fight you can see a lot of technical qualities shane has, like the way he changed his jab, speed and pop, the overhand right, body work, combination punching, lateral movement, head movement, stepped back to allow marg to shoot that jab then pounce with an overhand right..
              the way he would combo and tie up. mix in hooks to the body then to the head.


              i could go on for days

              coming in here saying a premier fighter has only one adjustment and it is to brawl just shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge to this sport.

              do some homework
              when u you dissect a fighter please dissect everything. I consider my self a fan of the sport, and shane is a throwback. U have to love that guy, but in his fight when he lost or barely won is when I thought shane should take some steps toward retirement. The 1st vargas fight, the mayorga fight were hideous. He clearly lost the cotto fight and his last fight with margarito was money in the bank for me, because I knew he would win. Not take any thing away from Suga Shane. But I see this fight is gonna get ugly (pages out of the hopkins book). I see a lot of clenching, pitty pat jabs followed by wild haye makers from Shane. If he wins I'll be glad to see it, but I highly doubt it.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by mrosborne View Post
                And finally, Mayweather is doubted because he never beat ANY champion in their prime, never fought anyone who could beat him, and the only quality wins he has on his resume is against overmatched opponents, over the hill marquee names such as DLH far past his prime, beating Marquez, a 130lb fighter and weighing 147+ pounds at a catchweight fight he was supposed to weigh in much less for, and beating Hatton who was a threat but let's face it as much as I love Hatton as a fighter he was a great champion but NOT a P4P fighter and never will be.

                I see you are very much a Floyd fan, but these are the facts.
                This is why I think this P4P stuff is non sense, because the same exact argument could be made against Pacquiao. Every single one of his noteable fights where against guys who where passed there prime. From Barrera, Moralez, definelty De la hoya, Cotto, etc. How do you give manny credit by extract from floyds? They fought the same guys at this wieght. The only guy pac fought may didn't was cotto. And Pac flat out refused to fight mosley after he agreed to everything under the sun. Clottey would have never gotten a fight with May or Pac for that matter, if it wasn't all these BS politics. He lost to the guy that lost to the guy. I know u guys on here claim you know boxing, but if u knew the truth you would know this P4P stuff is bull, its all about money now and EVERY fighter cherry picks.

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                • #58
                  I just watched this past weeks 24/7 and Roger seems SO DAMN IGNORANT. "Did he take the test?" I mean all I can see is Team Mayweather is coming up with some ready made excuses for when Floyd loses.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by SmoothMon View Post
                    This is why I think this P4P stuff is non sense, because the same exact argument could be made against Pacquiao. Every single one of his noteable fights where against guys who where passed there prime. From Barrera, Moralez, definelty De la hoya, Cotto, etc. How do you give manny credit by extract from floyds? They fought the same guys at this wieght. The only guy pac fought may didn't was cotto. And Pac flat out refused to fight mosley after he agreed to everything under the sun. Clottey would have never gotten a fight with May or Pac for that matter, if it wasn't all these BS politics. He lost to the guy that lost to the guy. I know u guys on here claim you know boxing, but if u knew the truth you would know this P4P stuff is bull, its all about money now and EVERY fighter cherry picks.
                    The difference is NOBODY thought he would beat De La Hoya. Morales whooped his ass the first fight. The only question about Cotto was did the Margarito fight ruin him. His skill set were never in question. I personally thought Hatton was going to maul him to death. With the exception of Oscar, I have picked NO ONE of having a realistic chance of beating Floyd since he came up from 135.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by slipjab73 View Post
                      Mosley's foot work won't serve him well against a person like Mayweather that will constantly keep him off balance. Keeping your opponent off balance takes away power. Floyd's defensive posturing will pose a problem for any boxer because its frustrating when you can't land much of what you throw. De La Hoya hit Mayweather with some good leather even snapping his head back a few times but it didn't stop Floyd from using his strategy of making De La Hoya miss more than hit.

                      Floyd will use his jab like a precision knife on Shane for this fight which will do some damage. Don't be surprised to see Mayweather stand in Mosley's pocket and make him infight more than he has with any other fighter. When I saw how Mayweather fought Chavez years ago it let me know that he can fight you and not just box when he needs to. Shane likes to throw those wide looping punches but look for Mayweather's upper cuts. The more aggressive you are with Mayweather the more you play into how he fights.
                      Yo man, for the guy that asked what does floyd bring to the table and floyd never been rocked. He's been rocked on quite a few occasions. Chop chop corley hit floyd flush on the chin and floyd was drunk for a sec, look it up. Not to mention him being chipped by judah for damn near 4 rds. I think his defense, and his accuracy will be a problem for shanes lack of defense and failure to penetrate good defense(see winky right) will cause shane to loose the fight. I think shane could rough floyd up a lot out work him as de la hoya almost did until started slacking, but shane has power and speed and also has a wild streak of looping sloppy punches that u guys are failing to mention. Let's be real here fellas

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