Comments Thread For: Roger Mayweather, Naazim Richardson Talk The Big Fight

[1nonlymre]

24/7 edited the conference call with roger and ****m to make it seem like roger got owned. And for what? Ratings???

Well, I'll say this much. I thought it would have been better to have constant captions for when Roger speaks, in order to better understand him. I tell ya, even reading his words I still can't understand what he is trying to say most of the time.

At least 1/2 of what Roger says could be omitted to better understand him. The guy says a lot of nothing before he gets to the point. Just read his reply to having discredited Mosley on a lack of a jab.

But.....

be that as it may. Come May 1st, it should be a good night of boxing.

[jbpanama]

The key to this fight is adjustments. And when it comes to adjustments Floyd is the best in the game baby. And there ain't no denying it. Shane has 1 adjustment that's just to brawl. Floyd is gonna be too smart for Shane come May 1st. Easy work for "Money" Mayweather.

tRUE Story tweety, boy adjusts his
CHERRY PICKING, from UNDERSIZED to
OVER the HILL, and down the ROAD!!!

[slipjab73]

No, probably to illustrate the difference between an intelligent black man/gifted trainer and a toothless rambling crackhead. There is a difference you know?

I may not think much of Roger Mayweather the man but as a trainer he is equal to ****m any day. I don't know why so much pressure is put on ****m, he's just 1 man that happens to train a fighter that has already been trained. Roger Mayweather has done an outstanding job of training Floyd over the years so don't try to say Roger is rambling because he knows boxing very well. Roger's personality is his and that's fine because he is responsible for one thing and that's getting Floyd in the best fighting shaoe of his life. It takes a certain level of intelligence to do this so lighten up on the man.

[mrosborne]

I may not think much of Roger Mayweather the man but as a trainer he is equal to ****m any day. I don't know why so much pressure is put on ****m, he's just 1 man that happens to train a fighter that has already been trained. Roger Mayweather has done an outstanding job of training Floyd over the years so don't try to say Roger is rambling because he knows boxing very well. Roger's personality is his and that's fine because he is responsible for one thing and that's getting Floyd in the best fighting shaoe of his life. It takes a certain level of intelligence to do this so lighten up on the man.

I don't dispute Roger as a trainer. It's easy to give him credit when Floyd Jr hasn't lost yet, so this is a given. He obviously is beneficial to Floyd so I will admit that much, but who else does he train besides Floyd? Anyone worth mentioning?

****m, on the other hand, trains Shane and Hopkins. How many times has either man lost with him in the corner? Zero. How many times have they both had incredible fights with him in the corner? Every single one. Pavlik vs Hopkins. Margarito vs Mosley. Yeah I know you are going to say "Well they were both tailor made for them, syles make fights etc". To this I say who gave either Hopkins or Mosley ANY shot of beating Pavlik/Margarito in those respective fights? They were massive underdogs. Obviously this man in the corner knows some strategy and has his game together.

Is Roger a great trainer without Floyd? I have no idea.

[amayseng]

The key to this fight is adjustments. And when it comes to adjustments Floyd is the best in the game baby. And there ain't no denying it. Shane has 1 adjustment that's just to brawl. Floyd is gonna be too smart for Shane come May 1st. Easy work for "Money" Mayweather.

one adjustment just to brawl?
did he brawl against cotto? collazo? dlh? margacheato?

come on now man, i know you are a floyd fan, but your just way off with the sport itself.

try to come correct, you are embarrassing yourself.

if u disect the marg fight you can see a lot of technical qualities shane has, like the way he changed his jab, speed and pop, the overhand right, body work, combination punching, lateral movement, head movement, stepped back to allow marg to shoot that jab then pounce with an overhand right..
the way he would combo and tie up. mix in hooks to the body then to the head.


i could go on for days

coming in here saying a premier fighter has only one adjustment and it is to brawl just shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge to this sport.

do some homework

[jbpanama]

Mosley knocks out Mayweather and hands him his first loss May 1st, TKO by Round 9. Got my $500 bucks on Sugar Shane, P Town for the win!

(P Town is Pomona, for those who don't live here in the Inland Empire of SoCal)

that returns $2000!!!

GOOD VALUE!!!

[slipjab73]

I don't dispute Roger as a trainer. It's easy to give him credit when Floyd Jr hasn't lost yet, so this is a given. He obviously is beneficial to Floyd so I will admit that much, but who else does he train besides Floyd? Anyone worth mentioning?

****m, on the other hand, trains Shane and Hopkins. How many times has either man lost with him in the corner? Zero. How many times have they both had incredible fights with him in the corner? Every single one. Pavlik vs Hopkins. Margarito vs Mosley. Yeah I know you are going to say "Well they were both tailor made for them, syles make fights etc". To this I say who gave either Hopkins or Mosley ANY shot of beating Pavlik/Margarito in those respective fights? They were massive underdogs. Obviously this man in the corner knows some strategy and has his game together.

Is Roger a great trainer without Floyd? I have no idea.

Hopkins was well trained by Bouie Fisher well beofre ****m ever walked into the picture and Shane Mosley was well trained by Jack Mosley. Identify one thing that Hopkins has done different with ****m since he and Fisher had a major money dispute? Shane fights the same so what did he really add to Shane's arsenal?

When you have the luxury of having a nephew that makes major bank and he's your cash cow, you don't have to train other's. It's arare luxury in boxing but there are a few trainers that live good off of one fighter. Roger would be a great trainer even without Floyd because he is a technical student of the game. Even Mayweather Sr, was a great trainer to De La Hoya and he taught Roger so go figure.

[mrosborne]

Hopkins was well trained by Bouie Fisher well beofre ****m ever walked into the picture and Shane Mosley was well trained by Jack Mosley. Identify one thing that Hopkins has done different with ****m since he and Fisher had a major money dispute? Shane fights the same so what did he really add to Shane's arsenal?

When you have the luxury of having a nephew that makes major bank and he's your cash cow, you don't have to train other's. It's arare luxury in boxing but there are a few trainers that live good off of one fighter. Roger would be a great trainer even without Floyd because he is a technical student of the game. Even Mayweather Sr, was a great trainer to De La Hoya and he taught Roger so go figure.

Valid points. Hopkins has always been his own man, so Naazim is more there for the strategy element. If you listen to him in the corner in that fight everything he says is completely accurate, so that right there helps any already great fighter focus in the task at hand. It's the same thing with Shane. The best point I can point out to make this stand out is with Sugar Shane and his dad Jack. Naazim doesn't do anything but talk about what to do to win the fight. Jack would say things to bolster confidence, but wouldn't tell Shane anything of note to improve the fight from round to round, instead focusing on making Shane feel confident and cheerlead him,. That's not really surprising considering it is his son after all. Ever watched a dad at their son's baseball/football/basketball game?

What I am getting at is simple: Naazim knows strategy. He is a straight shooter and that's what a great fighter needs from his corner.

I have listened to Roger many, many times in the corner. All he says is something like this" Man, this guy can't fck with you. Keep doing what what you're doing man, he ain't ****, etc"

Is that helpful? I guess it is if you are an ego maniac and need that constant self-assurance, but I don't know this is simply my opinion.

Roger knows his boxing history and he is a good trainer because Floyd is his fighter. This is exactly why I think he is going to be of ZERO help to Floyd on fight night, and exactly why I think Naazim is going to shine in this fight with Shane.

[slipjab73]

Valid points. Hopkins has always been his own man, so Naazim is more there for the strategy element. If you listen to him in the corner in that fight everything he says is completely accurate, so that right there helps any already great fighter focus in the task at hand. It's the same thing with Shane. The best point I can point out to make this stand out is with Sugar Shane and his dad Jack. Naazim doesn't do anything but talk about what to do to win the fight. Jack would say things to bolster confidence, but wouldn't tell Shane anything of note to improve the fight from round to round, instead focusing on making Shane feel confident and cheerlead him,. That's not really surprising considering it is his son after all. Ever watched a dad at their son's baseball/football/basketball game?

What I am getting at is simple: Naazim knows strategy. He is a straight shooter and that's what a great fighter needs from his corner.

I have listened to Roger many, many times in the corner. All he says is something like this" Man, this guy can't fck with you. Keep doing what what you're doing man, he ain't ****, etc"

Is that helpful? I guess it is if you are an ego maniac and need that constant self-assurance, but I don't know this is simply my opinion.

Roger knows his boxing history and he is a good trainer because Floyd is his fighter. This is exactly why I think he is going to be of ZERO help to Floyd on fight night, and exactly why I think Naazim is going to shine in this fight with Shane.

There have been fights where Roger does give Floyd very sound advice especially when he's getting touched more than Roger likes. Like Jack to Shane Floyd and Roger have a deep family bond. For the most part, Floyd is his own strategist the moment he walks into the center of the ring and let's you attempt to put him away early on. One of the reasons Floyd adjust so well is because he's in the ring and he's the one that has to put the wheels in motion. Roger knows Floyd's ability to think and adjust without him having to tell him to unless he really sees something he doesn't like.

I think ****m put it best when he says that people haven't seen the best of Floyd Mayweather but the moment Shane connects with his mouth he will become a dragon and spit fire. Mayweather will not only fight when he has too but he will use a sound strategy to beat his opponent.

[mrosborne]

There have been fights where Roger does give Floyd very sound advice especially when he's getting touched more than Roger likes. Like Jack to Shane Floyd and Roger have a deep family bond. For the most part, Floyd is his own strategist the moment he walks into the center of the ring and let's you attempt to put him away early on. One of the reasons Floyd adjust so well is because he's in the ring and he's the one that has to put the wheels in motion. Roger knows Floyd's ability to think and adjust without him having to tell him to unless he really sees something he doesn't like.

I think ****m put it best when he says that people haven't seen the best of Floyd Mayweather but the moment Shane connects with his mouth he will become a dragon and spit fire. Mayweather will not only fight when he has too but he will use a sound strategy to beat his opponent.

How do you see Floyd beating Shane? Is there anything in particular you see in Shane as a weakness that can be exploited in this fight?

I am curious to hear some opinions on this because I personally don't see what Floyd has here that Shane can't handle.

Floyd can't hurt Shane if he hit him with Margarito's gloves. Floyd is fast, and counters well. Shane is fast and counters well, and puts combos together with POWER behind it. We have never seen Floyd hurt. Will he know what to do when he is rocked? Will he have Roy Jones Jr's heart getting off the canvas? Will his corner know what to do at all seeing Floyd getting busted up, or even cut for that matter?

Let's hear some thoughts here, pro Mosley and pro Floyd. I would really like to see what the variance in opinions are here at BoxingScene because I see this as Mosley's fight hands down.