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  • #61
    I think floyd has fought fighters with as much as Mosley. The hard thing is which Mosley will we see. Without going into the BALCO BS, its clear post Dela Hoya that Shane was an extremely different fighter. He got hit more often and he struggled against boxers. DLH almost got him the 2nd fight. Cotto got him late. Winky got him. It just seemed he struggled.

    At other weights floyd has fought guys with similiar and greater knockout percentage as shane. If shane's speed is underated so is floyds power. Floyd doesn't have to have 1 punch ko power to beat shane. As for strategy shane could do exactly what zab did. Is shane on may 1 gonna be as fast as zab was when he fough floyd? I don't know.

    I also don't know if shane right now is better than castillo or corrales when floyd fought them. Yes he is better than they are career wise but maybe not at this point in his career.

    If shane can handle floyd s power(which is underated) and can work the body successfully, he has a great chance to win.

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    • #62
      This is the best thread on B-scene by far.

      When posters break down fights in depth. The trolls steer clear.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
        I think floyd has fought fighters with as much as Mosley. The hard thing is which Mosley will we see. Without going into the BALCO BS, its clear post Dela Hoya that Shane was an extremely different fighter. He got hit more often and he struggled against boxers. DLH almost got him the 2nd fight. Cotto got him late. Winky got him. It just seemed he struggled.

        At other weights floyd has fought guys with similiar and greater knockout percentage as shane. If shane's speed is underated so is floyds power. Floyd doesn't have to have 1 punch ko power to beat shane. As for strategy shane could do exactly what zab did. Is shane on may 1 gonna be as fast as zab was when he fough floyd? I don't know.

        I also don't know if shane right now is better than castillo or corrales when floyd fought them. Yes he is better than they are career wise but maybe not at this point in his career.

        If shane can handle floyd s power(which is underated) and can work the body successfully, he has a great chance to win.
        He used BALCO for the second Oscar fight.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
          This is the best thread on B-scene by far. No trolling so far. Good stuff people.
          Not to mention your solid post which is sort of the other side of mine.

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          • #65
            the thing that I cant wait to see is how will shane adapt to not being able to do what he wants to floyd in rounds 3-6.... Also you are gonna notice a huge difference in speed in the beginning and this will more than likely tell how the fight is going to go.... Its up to Mosley to stay focused and adapt to Mayweather when he changes up as well... Even when Floyd is winning a fight he will abruptly change his whole gameplan up.... Its gonna be a good one boys!!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Pretty Boy Greg View Post
              the thing that I cant wait to see is how will shane adapt to not being able to do what he wants to floyd in rounds 3-6.... Also you are gonna notice a huge difference in speed in the beginning and this will more than likely tell how the fight is going to go.... Its up to Mosley to stay focused and adapt to Mayweather when he changes up as well... Even when Floyd is winning a fight he will abruptly change his whole gameplan up.... Its gonna be a good one boys!!
              mosley will be frustrated by floyd's jab and running in the early rounds. mosley's gonna have to step on floyd's tail and hit him with a body shot.

              there won't be a big speed difference at all. the difference will be that floyd will set up his punches better and those who don't know any better will say floyd has better speed.

              mosley's gonna have to use the right tactics to offset floyd's tactics, but being reactionary against floyd will only get him so far.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                mosley will be frustrated by floyd's jab and running in the early rounds. mosley's gonna have to step on floyd's tail and hit him with a body shot.

                there won't be a big speed difference at all. the difference will be that floyd will set up his punches better and those who don't know any better will say floyd has better speed.

                mosley's gonna have to use the right tactics to offset floyd's tactics, but being reactionary against floyd will only get him so far.
                I agree with most of this except the speed part. I think that will be the biggest difference is the hand speed.

                When I watch the Cotto fight. Cotto beat him to the punch alot and looked faster then Mosley. Even the commentators noticed. Floyd will make him slow at times.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                  mosley will be frustrated by floyd's jab and running in the early rounds. mosley's gonna have to step on floyd's tail and hit him with a body shot.

                  there won't be a big speed difference at all. the difference will be that floyd will set up his punches better and those who don't know any better will say floyd has better speed.

                  mosley's gonna have to use the right tactics to offset floyd's tactics, but being reactionary against floyd will only get him so far.
                  I totally disagree with ya pull... Floyds handspeed is going to be a lot more faster IMO...Mosley looked slower than Cotto for sure in that fight... 5 years ago, i'll say they are even at handspeed.... not today, no way, no how!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    I agree with most of this except the speed part. I think that will be the biggest difference is the hand speed.

                    When I watch the Cotto fight. Cotto beat him to the punch alot and looked faster then Mosley. Even the commentators noticed. Floyd will make him slow at times.
                    Originally posted by Pretty Boy Greg View Post
                    I totally disagree with ya pull... Floyds handspeed is going to be a lot more faster IMO...Mosley looked slower than Cotto for sure in that fight... 5 years ago, i'll say they are even at handspeed.... not today, no way, no how!
                    like I said before, don't mistake timing and setting up your shots with speed. not to say floyd isn't fast, he is, but the fact that he sets up his shots will make him seem faster.

                    we saw this in the cotto fight, which you to allude to. cotto isn't a superfast guy. he's got above average speed at best. what cotto did was time mosley with the jab. cotto's jab landed first giving the impression that cotto is faster than mosley.

                    I'm not saying mosley is faster than floyd. I'm just saying that floyd's timing and the way he sets up punches will make it seem like floyd is faster. But the speed is an illusion, it's the timing and the set up that really matters.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      like I said before, don't mistake timing and setting up your shots with speed. not to say floyd isn't fast, he is, but the fact that he sets up his shots will make him seem faster.

                      we saw this in the cotto fight, which you to allude to. cotto isn't a superfast guy. he's got above average speed at best. what cotto did was time mosley with the jab. cotto's jab landed first giving the impression that cotto is faster than mosley.

                      I'm not saying mosley is faster than floyd. I'm just saying that floyd's timing and the way he sets up punches will make it seem like floyd is faster. But the speed is an illusion, it's the timing and the set up that really matters.
                      I got ya... good post

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