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  • #21
    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
    Well....naw I leave Paul out of this. I wont go there this is a good thread..lol.
    . Thanks for the reminder - forgot he flat out said "no thanks" when Williams was offered.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Seriously. Reminds me of when Roy Jones said he would look to try and stop John Ruiz if he could because he didn't want to create twelve rounds of trouble for himself. I think Shane tends to slow down in the middle rounds some but he always picks it up. He's a vet. Floyd will need to get Shane's respect and then more. Maybe even stun him. It'll be interesting to see what Floyd's power looks like against Shane's chin, especially if he's working on combinations as his camp has stated.
      Yeah I noticed that Floyd looks much slimmer and faster. They are working on combos. Even in the Cotto fight Cotto looked faster then Shane. May will let those hands go a little more then normal. Whatever it takes to win hopefully we get a classic. You never know man this might be the fight where Floyd gets tested and we get some classic **** from him. So much so that a rematch will be more must see then a Pac fight.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        Yeah I noticed that Floyd looks much slimmer and faster. They are working on combos. Even in the Cotto fight Cotto looked faster then Shane. May will let those hands go a little more then normal. Whatever it takes to win hopefully we get a classic. You never know man this might be the fight where Floyd gets tested and we get some classic **** from him. So much so that a rematch will be more must see then a Pac fight.
        I think this could be the fight too. It was always Mosley, I guess. Honestly, people are saying this fight should've happened 5-10 years ago but I'd pick Floyd to beat any other version of Shane a lot easier than I do this. A younger Floyd had too much legs and might've made it look easy.

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        • #24
          For some reason people are making me come around to this fight, I wasnt a big fan of the match up because i thought Mosley was getting on a bit but thinking about it and watching him again show Mosley still have a lot left in the tank to win the fight.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            For some reason people are making me come around to this fight, I wasnt a big fan of the match up because i thought Mosley was getting on a bit but thinking about it and watching him again show Mosley still have a lot left in the tank to win the fight.
            Don't be mad at us if Floyd embarrasses him .

            Seriously, Mosley is a good bet. How can he not be? Like Roger said, there isn't a single opponent on Floyd's record that Shane wouldn't have beat.

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            • #26
              To me it comes down to jab and ovell boxing ability, these are things people always rag on Mosley about infact probably to much but when fighting the very best I still think those are issues.

              If Mosley is able to jab effectively he can win and the reason I am picking against Mosley is I don't forsee that happeaning.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                I don't think Hatton is stronger than Baldomir. Hatton was a powerhouse at 140 but he couldn't outmuscle Louis Collazo at 147. Sure, he came forward and threw tons of punches but in the end he was the one gasping for breath and looking a round or two away from a TKO. Baldomir has stood in with big welters and super welters. Both he and Mayweather are stronger than Hatton.

                I see your point on Mosley's jab and it could be proven on May 1st. But what I see when I watch him is him- in a very subtle manner - use those flicks to set up the real jabs. And he throws them. And they're good. I really like Mosley's jab. I think Roger does too which is why he keeps telling Shane he ain't got one and will have to maul Floyd.
                You guys that follow boxing as long as you have should understand weight in the context that you make statements ,,,,

                Collazo weighed 161 lbs Hatton weighed 158 , a big mistake on Rickys part trying to build up to a full WW , he couldnt he was soft slow and had no air , the trainer said they will never make that mistake again , they didnt .

                Baldy is close to 170 on fight night and Floyd was under 151 , it would be some kind of mean feat for Floyd to give that much weight and out muscle a iron chinned fighter like Baldy , Floyd fought the way he had to giving the weight away that he did .

                When Hatton fought Floyd he weighed his usual best fighting weight 152-3 the same weight he was beating KT Castillo and the same weight he stepped in with Pac ,,,, against Hatton Floyd was 151 , Floyd had no trouble matching strength with Hatton , first thing Hatton said was his strength surprised him .

                Now doesnt that throw a different light , on saying all these guys are WWs , how can people disregard the actual weight they fight at when it is so more important than a 30 hr dried out weigh-in weight in evaluating a fight , every major fight I listen and look for the actual fight weights they hold the key to the performance .

                Floyd is deceivingly strong and has such great balance and fluidly that he can turn an opponents strength back on himself , I dont think Shane will be that much more powerful than Floyd who has now only matured into a WW .

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Don't be mad at us if Floyd embarrasses him .

                  Seriously, Mosley is a good bet. How can he not be? Like Roger said, there isn't a single opponent on Floyd's record that Shane wouldn't have beat.

                  Yeah i agree with Roger about Mosley beating everyone on Mayweather's resume, I know the speed is still there for Mosley, And this is a really grudge match up especially for Mosley, Thats why i cant and dont want to compare or use the "Cotto outbox Mosley" theory in reference to this fight.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by street bully View Post
                    mayweather will make Shane use his legs, which are no longer as responsive as they once were. Taking mosley in the pocket is a bad idea, and will not work, mayweather will use his feet, get on his bike a little, and will make mosley move around in the ring, which will leave him uncomfortable, and frustrated, which in turn will have mosley taking too many chances and leaving himself open to be countred on ruite to a wide decision loss.
                    Pretty much what I see happening.

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                    • #30
                      As crazy as it sounds I think Floyd should go after Shane right from the start.

                      Shane is 2 dangerous to wait on him. Floyd got skills and speed 2 do it but does he have balls to do it?

                      If I m Floyd I would use those left hooks of his from the start and a good jab 2 the head.

                      I think Shane is gonna look for the body shots early when mayweather is gonna be on the ropes particularly right to body thrown with bad intentions to hurt Floyd. If he can slow Floyd early then he got a great chance of wining the fight but if not he will lose and lose bad i think.

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