Mosley-Mayweather: The Strategy

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Good analysis. I think this is a possible scenario. It will be interesting to see if Floyd has the legs to do it against a big, strong welter. His performance against Baldomir, for instance, was brilliant but also showed how size and consistent pressure can make a fighter move a lot more than they want to. Baldomir just didn't have the tools to do anything else.

Mosley will not be the smaller guy in there. And a lot of fighters - strong fighters - have found themselves feeling weary against him in the latter rounds. Floyd is used to fighting at a measured pace. If he's forced to do more, the results could be shocking. And I don't discount the result being what you stated above.

You should start doing articles you know alot of **** bro.

But to your points something that will be interesting is that Mosley doesnt get tired ever really. He actually gets fresher and stronger as the fight goes on. So Floyd will have to do something to hopefully make him tire a little bit. body shots and alot of movement should do the trick. Floyd will have to fight a good 36 minutes straight to win because Shane still has power in the 12th round.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I don't think Hatton is stronger than Baldomir. Hatton was a powerhouse at 140 but he couldn't outmuscle Louis Collazo at 147. Sure, he came forward and threw tons of punches but in the end he was the one gasping for breath and looking a round or two away from a TKO. Baldomir has stood in with big welters and super welters. Both he and Mayweather are stronger than Hatton.
I see your point on Mosley's jab and it could be proven on May 1st. But what I see when I watch him is him- in a very subtle manner - use those flicks to set up the real jabs. And he throws them. And they're good. I really like Mosley's jab. I think Roger does too which is why he keeps telling Shane he ain't got one and will have to maul Floyd.

What do you think about Mayweather allowing himself to get manuvered? I was thinking about this because I watched Mayweather do it against Hatton, then again thats Hatton. This was in the 5th round. In the bold, I might have gone too far with that. I remember Baldomir's punches actually moved Mayweather; stuff was weird. It wasn't because of his punching power (Because he ain't a hard puncher) but because of his size and overall strength.

At 5:02. You can see this,



Another thing I noticed is that Mayweather hasn't faced anyone with much of a right. Lets exclude JMM for obvious reasons.

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You should start doing articles you know alot of **** bro.

But to your points something that will be interesting is that Mosley doesnt get tired ever really. He actually gets fresher and stronger as the fight goes on. So Floyd will have to do something to hopefully make him tire a little bit. body shots and alot of movement should do the trick. Floyd will have to fight a good 36 minutes straight to win because Shane still has power in the 12th round.

Seriously. Reminds me of when Roy Jones said he would look to try and stop John Ruiz if he could because he didn't want to create twelve rounds of trouble for himself. I think Shane tends to slow down in the middle rounds some but he always picks it up. He's a vet. Floyd will need to get Shane's respect and then more. Maybe even stun him. It'll be interesting to see what Floyd's power looks like against Shane's chin, especially if he's working on combinations as his camp has stated.

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What do you think about Mayweather allowing himself to get manuvered? I was thinking about this because I watched Mayweather do it against Hatton, then again thats Hatton. This was in the 5th round. In the bold, I might have gone too far with that. I remember Baldomir's punches actually moved Mayweather; stuff was weird. It wasn't because of his punching power (Because he ain't a hard puncher) but because of his size and overall strength.

At 5:02. You can see this,



Another thing I noticed is that Mayweather hasn't faced anyone with much of a right. Lets exclude JMM for obvious reasons.

Yup. You notice Floyd had to move a lot more against Baldomir than he would've liked. Carlos' offense just isn't too hot. Shane can do more, especially when Floyd starts to shoulder roll and turn. He'll go downstairs and land hard on whatever Floyd gives him to hit. He'll only be able to do this in spurts but if he makes them count, Floyd may stop doing it altogether and remain in constant motion.

[Khalid X]

I was watching Teddy Atlas go over the strategy for Shane Mosley & Floyd Mayweather and noticed he said (as many have on here) that Mayweather will look to counter Mosley's jab with the right. I think everyone realizes this...including Mosley himself and ****m Richardson. I suspect that they will be looking to roll off the right and counter with their own. Extremely tough to do because Floyd's counter right is so quick and punishing.

Which leads to my second point. Shane Mosley's jab isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Folks, he's been using that jab throughout a career which, at point, was a glistening 38-0. You don't become the best fighter in the world using a bad jab. Maybe no jab, but not a bad one. He used the jab extremely well against De La Hoya in 2000. He used it well against Margarito as well. Shane has always flicked it out in a pawing manner but he is capable of mixing a hard jab in there which can totally throw off your timing. It confounded Oscar repeatedly. And sometimes he'll flick out a couple jabs then turn the third into a hook. Or a crunching right. of course, Floyd doesn't fight like an Oscar or Margarito. But if Mosley can make him just a bit hesitant to throw that straight right over the top, he could slow him down just enough to land his own. Or set him up for it with one of those "flick" jabs which is really a big right in hiding.

Finally, the theory that "Mosley can be outboxed" therefore Floyd will outbox doesn't work. Floyd isn't Vernon Forrest, nor is he Winky Wright, two big, rangy men who walked Shane down and kept him at the end of their punches. And while Miguel Cotto had success boxing (in the last few rounds, I guess?), all three of those guys had the strength to keep Mosley tentative at times and on his heels at others. Can Mayweather fight that kind of fight against a full-fledged welter? He couldn't against Baldomir. And he hasn't fought a true welter since. Floyd is deservedly the favorite. But those who think this will be a walkover need to think again.

I think the two biggest surprises in this fight will be how good Shane's jab will be and the gab between Shane and Floyd's strength won't be as wide as people think.

I think you got a good point because while Shane does flick his jab, he can and has shown the ability to use it to back an opponent up etc. Just look at the Tony fight, while it wasn't a jab to the body per say, the jab he was firing to his body was very effective at keeping Margaritio at bay.

So yeah, your are right, Mosley is very slept on.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yup. You notice Floyd had to move a lot more against Baldomir than he would've liked. Carlos' offense just isn't too hot. Shane can do more, especially when Floyd starts to shoulder roll and turn. He'll go downstairs and land hard on whatever Floyd gives him to hit. He'll only be able to do this in spurts but if he makes them count, Floyd may stop doing it altogether and remain in constant motion.

No lie man, originally I thought Mayweather vs. Mosley would be a boring matchup. Mainly because of Mosley's durability. I'm hoping this doesn't look like Mayweather vs. Carlos Hernandez or Baldomir. I know he messed up his hands against those 2 but it was more then that.

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I think the two biggest surprises in this fight will be how good Shane's jab will be and the gab between Shane and Floyd's strength won't be as wide as people think.

I think you got a good point because while Shane does flick his jab, he can and has shown the ability to use it to back an opponent up etc. Just look at the Tony fight, while it wasn't a jab to the body per say, the jab he was firing to his body was very effective at keeping Margaritio at bay.

So yeah, your are right, Mosley is very slept on.

He really is. A year ago he couldn't get a fight with anybody. I think people forget that.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He really is. A year ago he couldn't get a fight with anybody. I think people forget that.

Well....naw I leave Paul out of this. I wont go there this is a good thread..lol.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Well....naw I leave Paul out of this. I wont go there this is a good thread..lol.

You already did

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No lie man, originally I thought Mayweather vs. Mosley would be a boring matchup. Mainly because of Mosley's durability. I'm hoping this doesn't look like Mayweather vs. Carlos Hernandez or Baldomir. I know he messed up his hands against those 2 but it was more then that.

I could see his hands getting hurt hitting Shane's noggin'. But I don't think you have to worry about this fight looking like Floyd versus Baldomir or Famoso. Shane is leagues above those two. Roger realizes the tough assignment he has ahead of him. He has a lot of respect for Shane, unlike when Floyd fought Gatti and he couldn't stop giggling and laughing uncontrollably throughout his speech at the opening presser.