Can Wlad surpass Lennox as ATG

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  • joe strong
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    #51
    no chance what so ever...lennox is the greatest heavyweight ever IMO! Wlads a top 20 & surefire hall of famer but his resume will never touch lennox's...the lennox that beat vitali(old,out of shape,unmotivated) beats wlad.in shape,motivated lennox crushes wlad.I've seen every fight by both fighters & own a copy of all both of their fights.not even close IMO....

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    • JM1
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      #52
      Originally posted by british_fan
      na the competition just isnt there,not his fault
      cosign, great post mate

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      • jaskieee
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        #53
        I dont think he can surpass Lennox Lewis. Lewis beat legends like mike tyson, i was going to say that wlad lost to legends like Lennox lewis, but when i think about it, it might have been vitali who lost to lewis.... pretty sure it was

        I cant even tell the difference between them to be honest. Last year i was thinking 'man, this klitchko guy is pretty active for a heavyweight world champ'. the type of contests they have been in lately , they could probably get away with taking 4+ fights a year

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        • Jim Jeffries
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          #54
          Originally posted by jaskieee
          I dont think he can surpass Lennox Lewis. Lewis beat legends like mike tyson, i was going to say that wlad lost to legends like Lennox lewis, but when i think about it, it might have been vitali who lost to lewis.... pretty sure it was

          I cant even tell the difference between them to be honest. Last year i was thinking 'man, this klitchko guy is pretty active for a heavyweight world champ'. the type of contests they have been in lately , they could probably get away with taking 4+ fights a year
          I wouldn't put Tyson in the list of Lennox's ten best wins TBH. Nice name to have on there, but Mike was shot by then. Are you saying if Lennox came back and Wlad beat him and Evander, then he'd become a legend beater too?

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          • RimmyDelicious
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            #55
            Lennox' peak years, his second title reign and his first lineal title reign, he fought Akinwande, Golota, Briggs, Mavrovic, old Holyfield 2x, Grant, Botha, Tua and was then KO'd by Rahman. That is his legacy, excuse me for not being blown away. Now, if Wlad goes the rest of his days without being sparked out by another bum, and he racks up another 10-15 defenses, he would eclipse Lennox. Who knows what challenges lie down the road for him.

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            • jaskieee
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              #56
              Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
              I wouldn't put Tyson in the list of Lennox's ten best wins TBH. Nice name to have on there, but Mike was shot by then. Are you saying if Lennox came back and Wlad beat him and Evander, then he'd become a legend beater too?
              Touche =]

              Still but, i like Lennox even though Wlad's career isnt over thats just what belive.

              Maybe Wlad (i dont dare try and spell his full name incase you didnt notice) could impress me by knocking his brother out, other than that no current heavyweight accomplishment would blow me away

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              • Joeyzagz
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                #57
                Lennox avenged all of his losses and virtually defeated everyone he ever faced. He did this in a superior Heavyweight era where there was no steroid testing... And 3 of his opponents: (Evander, Vitali, and Tommy Morrison) were all caught for roids at one time.

                Lennox has the better record
                Lennox has the better resume'
                Lennox KO'd Rahman and Botha faster than WLad did

                Lennox was undisputed WBC IBF WBA champion(3 diff guys wear those belts today)


                But the most important stat is that Lennox beat everyone he ever faced. Hard to top that.

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                • SN!PER
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                  #58
                  Wlad will probably unify the titles and continue dominating for 5 or 6 years. He could have 60-70 total wins and 20+ title defenses. Sorry Lennox fans, but that would definitely rank Wlad as a higher ATG.

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                  • Pirao
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by sunny31
                    He hasn't proved it against anyone...so you calling him atg and me disagreeing is purely hypothetical. You have to beat great fighters to be an ATG. Many people consider oscar de la hoya not to be an atg, and he has competed with and beaten great fighters. Joe calzaghe has done more in his career to be considered an atg, at least he went in there with an older version of b-hop who was still a great fighter, and he had a longer run as champ at smw. But if you feel that strongly about it make a poll, I bet you it isn't as decisive as you think
                    No, your logic sucks. If that were true there would be no great fighters.

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                    • Pirao
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                      Lewis wins over Holyfield, even a slightly past it holyfield > anyone on wlads resume.

                      Tua, golota, ruddock and others on lewis resume would go through wlads resume pretty easy i think
                      Yes, Tua really went through Byrd easy, didn't him? You idiots should check the facts before making ****** posts like this.

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