Can Wlad surpass Lennox as ATG

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  • STEELHEAD
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    #31
    Originally posted by boxingking500
    can wlad surpass lennox on the ATG list........ what would wlad have to do to possibly surpass lennox..... if wlad hasn't already surpassed lewis....

    i want intelligent comments, not "oh lennox will spank wlad"...

    what would wlad have to do to surpass lennox..???
    give me a break.
    wlad shouldnt be allowed to shine lennox shoes!. . .
    here have a drink

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    • Earl-Hickey
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      #32
      Nope

      even if he beat Haye, Vitali, Povetkin and 2 more good fighters he's still not close imo

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      • sunny31
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        #33
        Originally posted by boxingking500
        is the competition bad...... or is it that wlad makes everyone look bad...

        im sick of that excuse.... you fight who you fight.................

        emmanuel steward said wlad will go down as an ATG, just like lennox.....
        No they are poor fighters...its not an excuse it is pretty much a fact, you find me one boxing pundit or trainer that thinks that the current heavyweight pool is not BELOW par and I will admit im wrong...you won't because everyone knows it is. Who do you think on wlad resume is a good fighter?

        Im sure steward believes that, he knows what he is talking about, but he said he believes he WILL, not that he IS. He still has a lot to prove

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        • boxingking500
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          #34
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
          Nope

          even if he beat Haye, Vitali, Povetkin and 2 more good fighters he's still not close imo
          how come...

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          • sunny31
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            #35
            Originally posted by boxingking500
            define great fighters... who the hell is a great fighter... whats the set in stone definition

            wlad makes his opponets look like ****.......

            your in denial


            make a pole, if wlad is in the top 20 ATG heavyweights and i bet you there would be lots of yes...
            Yes im in denial about a fighter I couldn't give a **** about either way

            Great fighters at heavyweight would include:
            holyfield
            lewis
            tyson
            bowe
            holmes...

            This is dumb I could go on for a while...he hasn't even beat that many good heavyweights thats the problem. He hasn't beaten anyone like razor ruddock, or shannon briggs, michael moorer, real good heavweights from the 90's who were hard to beat. Who have ability, size, and athletiscism. Wlad might squeeze in the top 20, but I would only make that judgement at the end of his career. Even if he was in the top 20 does that qualify him as an atg?

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            • Earl-Hickey
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              #36
              Originally posted by boxingking500
              how come...
              Lewis wins over Holyfield, even a slightly past it holyfield > anyone on wlads resume.

              Tua, golota, ruddock and others on lewis resume would go through wlads resume pretty easy i think

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              • boxingking500
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                #37
                Originally posted by sunny31
                Yes im in denial about a fighter I couldn't give a **** about either way

                Great fighters at heavyweight would include:
                holyfield
                lewis
                tyson
                bowe
                holmes...

                This is dumb I could go on for a while...he hasn't even beat that many good heavyweights thats the problem. He hasn't beaten anyone like razor ruddock, or shannon briggs, michael moorer, real good heavweights from the 90's who were hard to beat. Who have ability, size, and athletiscism. Wlad might squeeze in the top 20, but I would only make that judgement at the end of his career. Even if he was in the top 20 does that qualify him as an atg?
                what shannon briggs.......... wtf.....

                shannon briggs is a bum, wlad would spark him

                how can you say shannon is a good fighter.....

                are you seriously not a klit-hater cause you sound like one

                wlad is a great fighter and would spark micheal moorer, briggs, ruddock...

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                • sunny31
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                  Lewis wins over Holyfield, even a slightly past it holyfield > anyone on wlads resume.

                  Tua, golota, ruddock and others on lewis resume would go through wlads resume pretty easy i think
                  Forgot to mention a prime vitali...was a good win even with the controversy

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                  • Evil Abed
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                    #39
                    I think Wlad has to beat another ATG.

                    If he beats Haye and Povektin and they both have incredible careers than he could possibly surpass Lennox.

                    I don't know many fighters who are ATGs who didn't beat at least one ATG.

                    Unifying the division could also help his cause.

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                      #40
                      Lennox Lewis is Arsenal. Wladimir Klitsckho is Spurs.

                      Both big clubs but Arsenal's still a bigger club then Spurs.

                      Herbie Hide is Leyton Orient.

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