Can Wlad surpass Lennox as ATG

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  • DiegoFuego
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    #21
    The best win on Wlad's resume is what...Chris Byrd? That's...great I guess...I mean, Ibeabuchi knocked him out even more spectacularly years before Wlad, but oh well.

    Amazing what passes for "greatness" these days.

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      #22
      Originally posted by boxingking500
      wow... you lost me when you said he isn't already an ATG

      wlad might not surpass lewis, but i bet everybody on here, knows that wlad is an ATG



      your just a hater...
      hes a top 20 ATG heavyweight for me

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      • sunny31
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        #23
        Originally posted by boxingking500
        define "good competition"

        is it bad competition cause you dont like wlad

        or is it that maybe wlad domiantes all his opponets and makes them look bad
        Your living in a dream land if you think wlad is fighting good competition. I am completely neutral, I have no dislike for wlad whatsoever, but his competition has been waaay sub-par for a reigning heavyweight champion. Its not his fault all he can do is keep winning in dominating fashion, but the competition now is much worse than when mike tyson was champ, and a lot people regard mike tyson's reign as modest competition...so what does that make now?

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        • boxingking500
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          #24
          Originally posted by sunny31
          Your living in a dream land if you think wlad is fighting good competition. I am completely neutral, I have no dislike for wlad whatsoever, but his competition has been waaay sub-par for a reigning heavyweight champion. Its not his fault all he can do is keep winning in dominating fashion, but the competition now is much worse than when mike tyson was champ, and a lot people regard mike tyson's reign as modest competition...so what does that make now?
          is the competition bad...... or is it that wlad makes everyone look bad...

          im sick of that excuse.... you fight who you fight.................

          emmanuel steward said wlad will go down as an ATG, just like lennox.....

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            #25
            Originally posted by boxingking500
            is the competition bad...... or is it that wlad makes everyone look bad...

            im sick of that excuse.... you fight who you fight.................

            emmanuel steward said wlad will go down as an ATG, just like lennox.....
            its just that the pool of talent in the division is weak at the moment,its nothing to do with the fact that they look bad against wlad because the guys he beats wouldnt even be contenders in other eras

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              #26
              Originally posted by Kia-Ora
              Is this a joke? Lennox would spark waldo
              wlad is as capable of starching lewis as lewis would be him. he hits a hell of a lot harder than rahman and mcall

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              • sunny31
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                #27
                Originally posted by boxingking500
                define "good competition"

                is it bad competition cause you dont like wlad

                or is it that maybe wlad domiantes all his opponets and makes them look bad
                Originally posted by boxingking500
                wow... you lost me when you said he isn't already an ATG

                wlad might not surpass lewis, but i bet everybody on here, knows that wlad is an ATG



                your just a hater...
                He hasn't proved it against anyone...so you calling him atg and me disagreeing is purely hypothetical. You have to beat great fighters to be an ATG. Many people consider oscar de la hoya not to be an atg, and he has competed with and beaten great fighters. Joe calzaghe has done more in his career to be considered an atg, at least he went in there with an older version of b-hop who was still a great fighter, and he had a longer run as champ at smw. But if you feel that strongly about it make a poll, I bet you it isn't as decisive as you think

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                  #28
                  He is definately gonna be regaurded as an all time great \

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by british_fan
                    na the competition just isnt there,not his fault
                    This^^^^^^^^^^^^

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                    • boxingking500
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sunny31
                      He hasn't proved it against anyone...so you calling him atg and me disagreeing is purely hypothetical. You have to beat great fighters to be an ATG. Many people consider oscar de la hoya not to be an atg, and he has competed with and beaten great fighters. Joe calzaghe has done more in his career to be considered an atg, at least he went in there with an older version of b-hop who was still a great fighter, and he had a longer run as champ at smw. But if you feel that strongly about it make a poll, I bet you it isn't as decisive as you think
                      define great fighters... who the hell is a great fighter... whats the set in stone definition

                      wlad makes his opponets look like ****.......

                      your in denial


                      make a pole, if wlad is in the top 20 ATG heavyweights and i bet you there would be lots of yes...

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