Why do people think a slick boxer will beat Pacquiao?

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  • ELPacman
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    #41
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    With Cotto to be fair that was a Post Marg Cotto. And with Clottey the guy literally just stood there of course hed look great against him.

    Now..

    With Mayweather completely different creature. Pac has foot speed, sure. But Floyd has a lighting fast jab and right hand that will gain Pacs respect and keep him at bay,. He also has ****** long arms. Pac will have to sell out to get in and if that happens he will take some shots before Floyd grabs him and ties him up. Something Pac hasnt experienced yet. Floyd will clinch him alot because hes the better inside fighter and the stronger fighter.

    He beat Judah because he stalked Judah and didnt miss him. He got tired quick because of the body work Floyd put in through out the fight. It made Judah hesitant to throw. Floyd also has the straight right hand that Pac has no answers for.
    If you haven't noticed, Pac has neutralized all of his opponents greatest assets. I expect no different in this fight. They'll make sure Floyd pays for using it and you can say Clottey caught him with the right abit but Manny was throwing so damn much, he didn't give a **** about return fire in that fight. Of course he'll be more measured against Floyd. They neutralized Oscar's right, Hatton's left, Cotto's left, and soon to be Floyd's right.

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      #42
      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
      1. Not really because Marquez is one of the best counter punchers in boxing.

      2. Well this is my point, instead of others (I'm not saying you) using the frame slick fighters....they should just say Floyd Mayweather. It seems this whole slick fighter b.s. is short of Manny should fight Floyd. If so, I wish people would be direct with it instead of hiding behind the "Slick fighter" phrase.
      1. And he's avoided counter punchers and slick fighters, so...

      2. He also avoided Juan Guzman... and he also could have fought Zahir Raheem after Raheem gave the man that beat down Pac a boxing lesson.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ELPacman
        If you haven't noticed, Pac has neutralized all of his opponents greatest assets. I expect no different in this fight. They'll make sure Floyd pays for using it and you can say Clottey caught him with the right abit but Manny was throwing so damn much, he didn't give a **** about return fire in that fight. Of course he'll be more measured against Floyd. They neutralized Oscar's right, Hatton's left, Cotto's left, and soon to be Floyd's right.
        What did he neutralize vs. JMM in 2008?

        Exactly my point.

        If you havent noticed Floyd takes away his opponents best assets.

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          #44
          Originally posted by DempseyRollin
          pac gets hit by right hands. fact.

          pac cant beat a slick fighter. myth.


          pac cant beat a slick fighter with mayweather's skills. something i believe and something im more than anxious to find out.

          I agree with the highlight bit on your post, And i really want to see how he does against fighters that arent just there to stand in front of him.

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            #45
            Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
            What does any of that have to do with Manny fighting slick fighters? In all honestly would you throw Guzman in with Pac right now? I sure as hell wouldn't along with anyone who gives one ounce of a damn about his health and well being.
            Your excuse for Pac ducking Guzman was that Guzman had a tough outting with Funeka, as if Pacs never been beaten or had a tough fight. Hence the reason I threw Pacs record out there.

            Perhaps now that'd be the case, but in 06? Not a chance. We don't know what would have happened, because Pac avoided the fight.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              If you haven't noticed, Pac has neutralized all of his opponents greatest assets. I expect no different in this fight. They'll make sure Floyd pays for using it and you can say Clottey caught him with the right abit but Manny was throwing so damn much, he didn't give a **** about return fire in that fight. Of course he'll be more measured against Floyd. They neutralized Oscar's right, Hatton's left, Cotto's left, and soon to be Floyd's right.


              Sorry but what was Hatton greatest assets? His face first punch taking abilities? Fact is Clottey is the only fighter that made Pac think a little in the ring in his last 4 fights, The others just came in to fight Pac's style.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ELPacman
                If you haven't noticed, Pac has neutralized all of his opponents greatest assets. I expect no different in this fight. They'll make sure Floyd pays for using it and you can say Clottey caught him with the right abit but Manny was throwing so damn much, he didn't give a **** about return fire in that fight. Of course he'll be more measured against Floyd. They neutralized Oscar's right, Hatton's left, Cotto's left, and soon to be Floyd's right.
                The way Pac takes out his opponents best assets is by draining them before the bout, and or fighting opponents who've already had their best assets taken from them. Cotto for example.

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                  #48
                  [QUOTE=O.S.I.R.I.S;8062191]After watching Funeka vs Guzman 1 do you honestly believe that guy stands a chance against Manny? I mean lets be serious for a minute




                  i'm talking about when they were both in the same division....not right now......

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    With Cotto to be fair that was a Post Marg Cotto. And with Clottey the guy literally just stood there of course hed look great against him.

                    Now..

                    With Mayweather completely different creature. Pac has foot speed, sure. But Floyd has a lighting fast jab and right hand that will gain Pacs respect and keep him at bay,. He also has ****** long arms. Pac will have to sell out to get in and if that happens he will take some shots before Floyd grabs him and ties him up. Something Pac hasnt experienced yet. Floyd will clinch him alot because hes the better inside fighter and the stronger fighter.

                    He beat Judah because he stalked Judah and didnt miss him. He got tired quick because of the body work Floyd put in through out the fight. It made Judah hesitant to throw. Floyd also has the straight right hand that Pac has no answers for.

                    Well I disagree. I think Pac has plenty of answers, if anybody simply thinks that it's, "another Floyd by dominant, no question about it", you got another thing coming.

                    Pacquiao moves his head side-to-side constantly, and will expoit every opportunity he gets against the ropes. As already said, Floyd better be at his best absolute best, ready to move around the ring non-stop, something he hasn't had to do against JMM.

                    Pac-Floyd could be another Floyd-Delahoya-type fight where Oscar stole some of the early rounds, throwing flurries while Floyd is up against the ropes. Except he won't let up down the stretch.

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                      #50
                      Roach is trying to avoid Floyd and to a lesser extent Shane.....they now how to set traps and counter.......Floyd with str8 rights and str8 right leads....and Shane with chopping and overhand rights. Shane is bigger and stronger than floyd and has a longer reach......make no mistake if Pac fights Shane or Floyd he will get hit and hit often

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