Anyone else hate Hopkins?

[kbpoetree]

Just because you are dominant in one weight class doesnt automaticaly make you dominant in another, take Hatton for example at lww. If he moved up would he be dominant at ww the chances are highly unlikely Mayweather, Margarito, Clottey, Mosley etc blast him out. Naturally bigger guys who can take his punches, but pack the power the hurt him.

Most fighters do walk around heavier that is true, but thats because they are overweight: Hatton, Toney etc.

Do you consider Hopkins win over Roy, legit?

nah man not at all really spec watchen Jones Jr ..now during training i thought Jones looked decent cept he carried his hands low like always he should of fixed that he's prob not as quick anymore...obviously lol..but lets look at J Taylor..NOW would you consider him a good fighter? prob not but mayb...however when he fought Hop he was labeled an up and coming gr8. Taylor gets blasted anymore all will claim well hell Hop also lost to a no good Taylor..but thats not a fair statement at all...i agree the weight moving has pluses and minuses behind it..it really depends on the fighter some struggle more to make weight in their division and therefore when they do move up they are more successfull...like i said i get your point fully and their is truth for the most part...i just dont like the argument of weight class moving being the culprit to a loss when the fighter chose to fight at that weight

[DIB42]

Calzaghe win over Lacy=Hopkins win over Tito
Calzaghe win over Shieka=Hopkins win over Johnson
Calzaghe win over Hopkins=Hopkins win over Tarver
Calzaghe win over Brewer=Hopkins win over Oscar
Calzaghe win over Mitchell=Hopkins win over Winky
Calzaghe win over Eubank=Hopkins win over Joppy
Calzaghe win over Kessler=Hopkins win over Pavlik

Calzaghe 0 draws
Hopkins draw against Mercado

Calzaghe 0 losses
Hopkins has lost to most of th best fighters he has ever faced:
Jones, Taylor I, Taylor II, Calzaghe, Mitchell

Calzaghe resume-Hopkins=resume

In my opinion thats a great breakdown.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Calzaghe win over Lacy=Hopkins win over Tito
Calzaghe win over Shieka=Hopkins win over Johnson
Calzaghe win over Hopkins=Hopkins win over Tarver
Calzaghe win over Brewer=Hopkins win over Oscar
Calzaghe win over Mitchell=Hopkins win over Winky
Calzaghe win over Eubank=Hopkins win over Joppy
Calzaghe win over Kessler=Hopkins win over Pavlik

Notice how 4 out of the 7 of those wins are guys coming up in weight also, Winky/Oscar/Tito also happen to be the biggest names on the resume. Tarver/Johnson are both good fighters but not exceptional, Joppy is a decent fighter at best. Hopkins resume really isn't that great, i hate his antics and i hate his annoying fans who champion him as some fantastic atg and also over Jones and Calzaghe.

[IMDAZED]

nah man not at all really spec watchen Jones Jr ..now during training i thought Jones looked decent cept he carried his hands low like always he should of fixed that he's prob not as quick anymore...obviously lol..but lets look at J Taylor..NOW would you consider him a good fighter? prob not but mayb...however when he fought Hop he was labeled an up and coming gr8. Taylor gets blasted anymore all will claim well hell Hop also lost to a no good Taylor..but thats not a fair statement at all...i agree the weight moving has pluses and minuses behind it..it really depends on the fighter some struggle more to make weight in their division and therefore when they do move up they are more successfull...like i said i get your point fully and their is truth for the most part...i just dont like the argument of weight class moving being the culprit to a loss when the fighter chose to fight at that weight

Actually, aside from HBO, the consensus was that Taylor was far too green to beat Hops.

[PittyPat]

He's hilarious outside the ring and I love the **** he comes out with, but otherwise I can't stand his spoiling style of 'fighting' (if it can even be called fighting).

[General Zod]

nah man not at all really spec watchen Jones Jr ..now during training i thought Jones looked decent cept he carried his hands low like always he should of fixed that he's prob not as quick

Roy has been finished since Tarver II, any win over him after that doesnt mean anything. Calzaghe should of been ashamed of himself for chasing a Jones fight, but at least then jones was on a winning streak. Hopkins chased a Jones fight after Jones had been koed within 60 seconds.

anymore...obviously lol..but lets look at J Taylor..NOW would you consider him a good fighter? prob not but mayb...however when he fought Hop he was labeled an up and coming gr8. Taylor gets blasted anymore all will claim well hell Hop also lost to a no good Taylor..but thats not a fair statement at all.

Taylor was a great athlete, but he never learnt his fundamentals. Also after he won a belt his desire to stay at the top waned as well.

..i agree the weight moving has pluses and minuses behind it..it really depends on the fighter some struggle more to make weight in their division and therefore when they do move up they are more successfull...like i said i get your point fully and their is truth for the most part...i just dont like the argument of weight class moving being the culprit to a loss when the fighter chose to fight at that weight

The fighters who are succesfull at moving up either, have a high skill set: Duran, Toney, Jones, Mayweather or have the physique which can carry the extra mass well: Hearns, Williams, Holyfield etc

I can't really place Oscar or Tito in either group, but you are right, sometimes you cannot always put down losing to a fighter being out of their weight class. Hatton-Mayweather comes to mind

[Now_Or_Never]

Lmao at everyone hatin dis dude
Hopkins is my man, **** u jus haters

[kbpoetree]

Notice how 4 out of the 7 of those wins are guys coming up in weight also, Winky/Oscar/Tito also happen to be the biggest names on the resume. Tarver/Johnson are both good fighters but not exceptional, Joppy is a decent fighter at best. Hopkins resume really isn't that great, i hate his antics and i hate his annoying fans who champion him as some fantastic atg and also over Jones and Calzaghe.

no one points out tho how Hopkins was successfull goin up in weight tho people argue he beat small fighters but what about the big ones he moved up in weight to take down..gotta include both now

[General Zod]

Actually, aside from HBO, the consensus was that Taylor was far too green to beat Hops.

The general consensus was right as well. No way was he ready. He should of fought his WBC mandatory Winky Wright instead.

[Mr. Philadel]

and i dont hate hopkins, i just dont like his style and constant play acting trying to get a rest.

fair enough!! .....btw, I luv B.Hop's style