Is "The Heavyweight Division is Dead" a myth?

[CarlosG815]

"the heavyweight division is weak" says klitschko-haters.....

i dont think its weak... i just think no one right now has a chance against a klitschko..... not even haye...... people dont like klitschko cause there boring... i can see that, but if you think there bad boxers... then your are really ******, they are one of the greatest technical boxers of all time (more wlad than vitali, vitali is a slugger, wlad is more technically skilled)

as for the tyson-wlad bout....

yes mike could knock out wlad, easily... im not going to argue that... 1 good punch from mike to wlad's chin= out cold....

but then again... mike had trouble with tall fighters.... especially tall fighters with good jabs (i wonder who that is....... wladimir klitschko) and i could see wlad winning UD............

In his prime, which tall fighter gave him trouble with their jab?

Almost every opponent he faced was bigger than him. His typical opponent was between 6'1 and 6'5 and I can't even recall any of them landing a jab on him.

Unless you're referring to the shell that fought Lennox Lewis and Kevin McBride.

[edgarg]

They don't have to be as fast as Manny Pacquiao. Actually, that would be almost impossible to be that quick when you weigh over 200LB's.

I said the K brothers were good, what are you talking about? There is a difference in "good" and "entertaining." They are not entertaining.

And let's not talk about Buster Douglas in this thread, why would you want to derail your own thread? Tyson's accomplishments will be remembered forever, as will his greatness. He will be celebrated and watched for generations to come, and while the Klitschko's and even Buster Douglas have made their mark on HW boxing, they will not be remembered in the same light as the Great Mike Tyson.

I watch boxing to be entertained, and for ME, that division does not provide that.

I share your opinion of Tyson, but certainly not that of Marciano.....

[edgarg]

In his prime, which tall fighter gave him trouble with their jab?

Almost every opponent he faced was bigger than him. His typical opponent was between 6'1 and 6'5 and I can't even recall any of them landing a jab on him.

Unless you're referring to the shell that fought Lennox Lewis and Kevin McBride.

Buster Douglas' jab paved the way for Tyson's defeat, as well as Douglas' very slow count, and we mustn't forget to give proper credit to the Tokyo night clubs and geisha girls whom Tyson was training with.

[CarlosG815]

I share your opinion of Tyson, but certainly not that of Marciano.....

Marciano wasn't close to that of Tyson but he was VERY entertaining to watch, which is why I will watch his fights on a weekly basis.

[CarlosG815]

thats the whole thing pal. we're looking at the same thing and interpiting it different.
i must say you wont find one boxing scribe that agrees with your childish interpitation.
so who do we believe them or you and tunneyball/cornyvore.
i tell you what hvwt champs need your money. theres a reason why the klits
arent ppv or hbo worthy.
but the klits need kids like you.

You are spot on with this statement.

Carnivore/Kid Lavigne is probably the worst poster on this forum when it comes to the K brothers. He ran his mouth then put me on ignore because I owned him time after time. Click on my profile to view visitor message from him and you'll notice he makes a comment, then runs. He never had the balls to respond to what I said because he knew he had been pwnt.

[CarlosG815]

Buster Douglas' jab paved the way for Tyson's defeat, as well as Douglas' very slow count, and we mustn't forget to give proper credit to the Tokyo night clubs and geisha girls whom Tyson was training with.

Tyson was in no condition to fight. He half assed his training and wasn't prepared to go over 6 rounds. That's just my opinion, as I wasn't there, but at that time I don't think he was near as good as he was in 88.

[edgarg]

Back to my main point that probably got lost in between my long post, did Tyson ever face anything that even closely resembles a 6'7, 260lb guy with one of the biggest wingspans in history???

W Klitschko is a 245-50 lb guy with normal arms for his size, around 80-81 inches. His brother also has about the same arm span. One is 80" the other 81"

Sonny Liston at 6' 1" tall, had an arm span of 84". Valuev and other 7 footers have arm spans of 90-94".....

[edgarg]

Tyson was in no condition to fight. He half assed his training and wasn't prepared to go over 6 rounds. That's just my opinion, as I wasn't there, but at that time I don't think he was near as good as he was in 88.

Oh no, you are quite right, it was reported that he actually was in the gym for only a week before the fight. Douglas was expected to go only about 3-4 rounds. Tyson had lost his solid management and training team by then, and was under Don King's thumb...

[MoBetters]

I dont see how the heavyweight division is "DEAD"


Vitali Klitschko - Going down as an ATG
Wladimir Klitschko - Another ATG
David Haye - Could de-thone the Brothers
Alexander Povetkin - Hasnt got his shot yet. Skilled fighter
Nikolai Valuev - The dude is huge and SOME people like to watch him
Ruslan Chagaev
Tomasz Adamek
Chris Arreola
David Tua

Now we have 9 great boxers in this division and this division is dead? There may not be no superstar like pac or may but hell I see nothing wrong with this. Its all about publicity, There simply isnt enough publicity for this division.

Now throw "THE NEXT MIKE TYSON" if there is one soon and this division is all of a sudden HUUGGGE!!!!



Personally I think this division is just fine

thats the whole thing pal. we're looking at the same thing and interpiting it different.
i must say you wont find one boxing scribe that agrees with your childish interpitation.
so who do we believe them or you and tunneyball/cornyvore. you dweebs think that if you say it enough times it will stick.
i tell you what. klit champs need your money. theres a reason why the klits
arent ppv or hbo worthy.
but the klits need white silverspooned kids like you.

[edgarg]

Marciano wasn't close to that of Tyson but he was VERY entertaining to watch, which is why I will watch his fights on a weekly basis.

I suppose if you find him entertaining then you're entitled, but my objection is to all the adulation that he soaked up for years as the unbeaten heavyweight king etc.etc. Vey few people have ever bothered to learn the REAL facts about Marciano, and his unbeaten record.

It's just a matter of interest to me, much as is the mistaken public opinions about
King Richard 111. who was reputed to be very evil, and murdered his nephews, so that he could usurp the English crown. Shakespeare was to blame for most of his reputation.