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Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
    10 time world champion in 6 division. Tell me who has gotten that or near it and not great??
    Hall of famer sure. All Time Great fighter no way. He lost almost every time he went up against an elite.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
      Oscar was dominant at 135 but two losses to Mosley, as well as Trinidad and Hopkins keep him from being called great. He had to win those fights to get to the elite status of fighters. Controversial scores against Quartey and past prime Whitaker don't help. Oscar's best win to me was over Vargas. And that was after Trinidad ruined Vargas IMO.
      How the hell did Tito ruin Vargas?? A person that gets ruined doesn't become a world champion again, doesn't beat a good fighter in Castillejo.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        Hall of famer sure. All Time Great fighter no way. He lost almost every time he went up against an elite.
        His ONLY Losses have come to ATG/HOF boxers. He didn't lose to the Quintanas of the world.

        All you mfs are bitches with high standards for other boxers but when its with boxers you like, the standards get lowered to ****** levels.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
          Please somebody tell me.
          He lost to a lot of ATG fighters, that's what. And fought some old ones.

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          • #15
            PPV record?

            He was a cash cow for the sport for awhile.

            He was freakishly popular.

            And brought much needed attention to are sport.

            He was a HBO fighter so they hyped him up like no other.

            He was a very good fighter.

            Not an ATG.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
              His ONLY Losses have come to ATG/HOF boxers. He didn't lose to the Quintanas of the world.
              Hence him not being great. Hopkins lost to Clinton Mitchell.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                Hence him not being great.
                But yet he beat other ATGs. Hello idiot...Chavez, Whitaker??

                Who else fought Quartey at WW??

                Also , what does that tell you about the so called guys you call "great" now?? Having losses to dudes that don't even get in the HOF.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                  But yet he beat other ATGs. Hello idiot...Chavez, Whitaker??

                  Who else fought Quartey at WW??
                  Chavez and Whitaker were past it. Get real man. Quartey was robbed dont be silly.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                    How the hell did Tito ruin Vargas?? A person that gets ruined doesn't become a world champion again, doesn't beat a good fighter in Castillejo.
                    I hope you don't think Castillejo was a big force when Vargas beat him. Look how many times he had been beaten before Vargas. Not that he was ever great anyway. Vargas also got knocked down and hurt by journeyman Wilfredo Riviera after the Trinidad fight. Not a good sign for his chin.

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                    • #20
                      Ali lost to Norton, Frazier but still is an ATG

                      Losing fights doesn't always stop that, especially when you go through guys who went on to do good things on done good things in the past

                      He accomplished a lot, beat some good to great guys, made a ton of bucks and most to go through his resume would do worse

                      His style was good, he had fast hands and a very good chin

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