Manny Pacquiao Or Marvin Hagler. Who's Greater?

[TOBYLEE1]

Isn't Hagler's resume like Hopkins?? Beat a lot of midgets.

Look who Hagler beat and what they did after the loss and check Pac's loser record after they got beat

[Calilloyd]

Isn't Hagler's resume like Hopkins?? Beat a lot of midgets.

He beat everybody that mattered in his division. And Hearns moved all the way to cruiserweight. Hardly a midget.

[The Noose]

why would he want to fight light heavyweights?

he's a middleweight.

Why would he call out fight Welter weights?

marco and erik ruined each other. those fights took a major toll on both.
hatton was ruined look at lazcano and cotto well lets just say that win has an * next to it. pcyow lost to jmm twice wtf man. cyow moved up because he was malnourished so put another * next to that too. the man was livin on krispy kreem and muskrat kabobs.

Duran...fat lightweight.
Leonard....5 year lay off....and still lost.

[Red Rebel]

BoxRec Annual Ratings:
9 Top Ranks - Pacquiao
7 Top Ranks - Hagler

Ring Fighter of the Year:
3 (2006, 2008, 2009) - Pacquiao
2 (1983, 1985) - Hagler

Lineal Titles:
4 - Pacquiao
1 - Hagler

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end of thread & poll....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Hagler obviously.

Mannys career isnt even over whos to say he doesnt get KO'd by Floyd?


Since when does beating Cotto at 145 make you greater then Hagler. Gimme a break.

[TOBYLEE1]

good for them if they try to win all these titles in different divisions.

great achievements.

staying in one division and beating all challengers for a long period of time is just as great though.

In comparision it is a different type of fighters so Pac in his own way will always be considered. Been watching boxing for a long time so I seen alot of weight classes has been added over the years. My perspective is a lil different when it comes to boxing opinions.

[The Noose]

Look who Hagler beat and what they did after the loss and check Pac's loser record after they got beat

This is true.

But Pac KOing welter weights is freaky.

I cant imagine many of the ATG lower weight fighters doing what he has done.

[Left Banned Tua]

Why would he call out fight Welter weights?

hagler is not a big middleweight.

he's what 5'9?

he's smaller than abraham and look how small abraham is compared to super middleweights.



leonard and hearns are huge welterweights.

that's how they were still able to win titles at 160-175.

hell hearns was campaigning at cruiser at the end of his career.

[edgarg]

Hagler was at 160 is whole career so he had to fight everyone.

But he didnt fight the light heavyweights who wanted to fight him, prefering to call out Leonard when he was a welterweight.

You are wrong. When Leonard fought Hagler he was a fully fledged middleweight, who hadn't been under the welterweight limit for over 6 years. Of course for the last nearly 3 of those years he had not fought, but it is noteworthy that Leonard had about a half dozen fights after Hagler, not one of which was under the middleweight limit, but even higher.

As for Hearns, he was 4 inches taller than Hagler, at 6'1" and had been fighting as a middleweight for 4 years before he fought Hagler. He was a full Middleweight, and, in fact had a fight at Lt. heavy, winning the WBC title. He ended up at cruiserweight, having had about a dozen fights at that weight.


So Hagler cannot actually be accused of fighting lighter weight fighters. They were all at least his match in height, weight, and even talent. he just beat them through sheer grit and determination, added to considerable skill, and bravery.

[Calilloyd]

Why would he call out fight Welter weights?



Duran...fat lightweight.
Leonard....5 year lay off....and still lost.

The same fat lightweight that destroyed junior middlweight champion Davey Moore and later went on to win the middleweight belt over Iran Barkley? And Leonard was off 3 years, not 5. You don't know what you're talking about.