Comments Thread For: Shane Mosley Will Beat Mayweather Jr, Says Pacquiao

[Rome-By-Ko]

I sure do. Mosley's no punk and he fought for belts, not money. Now with that youth gon and some losses on his record money is priority. If I was Mayweather, Mosely or Pac all 6foot 10 WW could kiss my champion ass

Lmao we agree here my man.

[SmoothMon]

well the one steppin back was cotto tho.mosley blocked most of his punches with the jaw and kept comin ahead and punchin.it was a good fight...Mosley did good also.ill watch it again tho...suggest you to do the same.

Agreed. I'm not trying to downplay shane I'm just saying I remember favoring shane and the disapointment I felt

[jbpanama]

Speaking with the Manila Bulletin, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao picked Shane Mosley to upset Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 1 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. Pacquiao thinks Mayweather is too defensive to win rounds against Mosley. The Filipino champ says Mosley's punch output will beat Mayweather's defensive style. [Click Here To Read More]

Since the PacMan fiasco, gotta wonder where PBF's
CONFIDENCE is, Still time for the MASTER of AVOIDANCE
to come up with EXCUSE to PUNK OUT!!!

Great Fighters Must Fight The BEST, to be Considered GREAT!!!
PBF saw UNCLE ROGER EXecutedin 85 by JC CHAVEZ, at the RIV flattened in TWO!!!!
He knows that his TIME is at HAND!!!

KEEPS TALKING about SHANE's 5 LOSSES!!!
Can U imagine PBF agreeing to fight any of the fighters that beat SHANE!!!

[Marciano90s]

Whut it dew Marci my man? I think Imma have to watch that fight again as well. I remember calling it a draw, but I only saw and scored it once, so Im due to watch it again. I've been studying Shane and Floyd's last fights to get a jist of who we possibly are going to see on May 1st. Tryin to get my game down tight!!!!!!

sup bro.yeah man sometime we argue each other without reason and without have seen the fight which we are arguing for.by what i remember it was pretty close,cant ramment a controversial decision but very close.i need to watch it and remake my statment.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

You're missing my point. Ali lost to Frazier, who was then destroyed by Foremen, who was then destroyed by Ali. Ali also lost to Norton, who was then destroyed by Foremen, who was then destroyed by Ali. So if fighter A beats fighter B, and fighter B beats fighter C, that doesn't necessarily mean that fighter A is better than fighter C. It sometimes means that styles make fights. Foreman's style was all wrong for Frazier and Norton, and Ali's style was all wrong for Foreman; but Frazier and Norton had styles that gave Ali huge trouble.

No Dave I got your point and understand it throughly. I'm not by any means applying the triangle theory(as it never works). What I'm saying is that both Cotto and Shane's style has changed(ever so slightly for Shane, and ever so drastically for Cotto), while Margo has remained the same, so a small amount of credence should be given to Shane on his victory over Margo more so than his loss to Cotto, as Shane has looked a tad bit sharper and Cotto has declined drastically. And Ali's style for Forman was invented and employed strictly for that fight ala adjusting to the fighter in front of you. Smokin' Joe's style was too fluid for Ali to adjust to that is why Ali had problems with Joe.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

sup bro.yeah man sometime we argue each other without reason and without have seen the fight which we are arguing for.by what i remember it was pretty close,cant ramment a controversial decision but very close.i need to watch it and remake my statment.

I completely agree homie. Sometimes I find myself discussing a fight I have'nt seen in years, and I have to after the conversation go back and watch the fight again. I like that though cause usually that means I was talking to someone who KNEW Boxing, which is great for me ya know?

[Rome-By-Ko]

No Dave I got your point and understand it throughly. I'm not by any means applying the triangle theory(as it never works). What I'm saying is that both Cotto and Shane's style has changed(ever so slightly for Shane, and ever so drastically for Cotto), while Margo has remained the same, so a small amount of credence should be given to Shane on his victory over Margo more so than his loss to Cotto, as Shane has looked a tad bit sharper and Cotto has declined drastically. And Ali's style for Forman was invented and employed strictly for that fight ala adjusting to the fighter in front of you. Smokin' Joe's style was too fluid for Ali to adjust to that is why Ali had problems with Joe.

Once again great post.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Thank's brother.

Aint nuthin homie, thats what potnas do slick.

[Mr. Invincible]

Probably, but so are you in your next sentence.

Lol, hello Dave.

Very insightful stuff from you across the board I've noticed. Cheers on that.

I gotta disagree about wishful thinking on my part though. I would prefer to see Mayweather-Pacquiao as would everyone who is a true boxing fan but would be nearly as ecstatic with Pac-SSM as well. I have no stake in the fight or anything, I just happen to be in touch with the reality of the situation. Mayweather will not lose to Mosley barring a freak occurance. (No, I don't swing from Mayweathers nuts or think he's unbeatable.)

The version of Mosley who lost to Cotto would not have a chance of beating Mayweather, but most people think Mosley has had been rejuvenated since then, and is back to his old form.

Back to his old form that he was in say........the Wright or Forrest fights? See where I'm going with this?

Floyd-Marquez tells you nothing about this fight. Marquez had a bad style to cope with Mayweather, and the weight gain had slowed him down and reduced his power. He was physically dominated even when he was at Lightweight. He's still a natural Super-Featherweight..

Sure it does tell a bit of the story.......whether the triangle theory works or not.
Marquez was the #2 P4P fighter in the world at the time he was completely dismantled by Floyd. Smaller? Sure by a little bit, but lets not forget that Floyd and Mosley used to campaign in the same class that Marquez was the lineal champion in. He had no lack of speed nor a lack of power in the fight. He was just not effective against Mayweather, who didn't allow him to use his timing like he was able to against Pacquiao's agressive style.

OTOH, Mosley is a big Welterweight and very fast, with a good workrate and good power. He'll be a far tougher challenge for Mayweather than Marquez was, although I think May will win.

I agree he will be a challenge and would never disrespect a guy like Shane, who I think is one of the best men in boxing ever. I just know he cannot beat Mayweather and most likely never could have. Not even at his absolute peak. How, you ask do I know this?

In a rational, basic sense, it's simple when you break it down.

Mosley has lost big to 4 fighters in actuality.(Delahoya, Forrest, Wright and Cotto) All 4 have been orthodox fighters with very good defenses at the time he fought them. The latest example is Cotto, whom I will use since that Mosley will be the closest thing that shows up on May 1st.

Every time Cotto went defensive and countered working off of the jab, he dusted Mosley's boots. Did he do that the whole fight and win wide? Well no..........

.........but take a wild guess who will. That's right.

So, my guess is that while Mosley looked phenomenal beating human heavy bags Margarito and Mayorga, who stands right in front of an opponent and dares them to hurt him, he will be completely neutralized against the defensive, counter punching style of Mayweather. Just as Marquez was.*

No, I'm not saying that Marquez beats Mosley, that's taking it too far. I'm just saying that they are comparable on a basic level. Both can counter and work off of guys trying to **** on them by using their own strengths. Mayweather doesn't play that game and will be a stylistic nightmare for the likes of Mosley and even Pacquiao in my opinion.

I've said my peace. Hope you can live with it.

*Marquez was never for a second in the fight but I think Shane will be known to be there to an extent. But after that, it's all but over for a Mayweather UD. A medium to wide UD.

[Marciano90s]

I completely agree homie. Sometimes I find myself discussing a fight I have'nt seen in years, and I have to after the conversation go back and watch the fight again. I like that though cause usually that means I was talking to someone who KNEW Boxing, which is great for me ya know?

defo gotcha bro.im out now..enjoy your conversation.

ps:lets watch cotto-mosley again.LOL