Pacquiao should have given Marquez an immediate rematch at 135.

[Glamour Puss]

come on dude,manny could make 135 but his best weight right now is ww,hes beat clottey,cotto and oscar at the weight so i say thats his best weight right now

Oscar doesn't count. Cotto was at a CW.

Clottey is the only WW he's fought so far and he came in at 45'.

His best weight is anything from 30-45.

[S A M U R A I]

He is smart to stay away from Marquez. I only want the fight for Marquez to knock him out and make the money he deserves.

We'll have to disagree on this bro. I think Marquez stands no chance at 140+ with this current version of Pacquiao. I don't think he's avoided him either, Manny's just probably sick of his face by now.



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[Glamour Puss]

In Pacquiaos favor, Margarito is done. Knockout losses like the one he recieved from Mosley end careers.

I want to see how Margarito looks in a tuneup before I make that determination.

If he still has it, he will mow Packy down.

[S A M U R A I]

In Pacquiaos favor, Margarito is done. Knockout losses like the one he recieved from Mosley end careers.

Right. I thought you were gonna say Margarito beats his ass, which I wouldn't have agreed with.



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[PensionKiller]

He is smart to stay away from Marquez. I only want the fight for Marquez to knock him out and make the money he deserves.



He is fine at 130 or 35'. He didn't look slow at 35 against Diaz.

Lol@ Water weight....smh..

You do realise Pac use to get back up to about 142/145 at 126.

Now he is 149 ish at 145 weigh in's.

Ah now I recall who you are bro The guy I was suppose to bet if JMM and him fight

Still down if it happens at 140? I'll give you 2-1 odds. At 135 it's evens for me

Anyway at 135 he was very fast, but his power wasn't there.

I don't care if Diaz is tough or what, Pac just didn;t seem as strong to me.

[S A M U R A I]

You do realise Pac use to get back up to about 142/145 at 126.

Now he is 149 ish at 145 weigh in's.

Just to be exact and get some facts and figures up here:


2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs



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[Khalid X]

It was a great fight, but you guys need to chill with the Marquez was robbed ****. Pac won 115 IMO and even if you had it even going into the championship rounds (I didn't I had pac ahead), pac still won 2 outta the last 3, solidifying the win for him.

Bottom line is this, the rematch didn't happen because Marquez thought he was bigger than he was. Remember this was the same guy who turned down a career high payday (rematch with Pac) to go fight chris john for 30k only to get outboxed by him in idonesia. After Pac beat him for a second time, then was nothing else left to prove with him.

[street bully]

I want to see how Margarito looks in a tuneup before I make that determination.

If he still has it, he will mow Packy down.

margarito is just too bad ass, if he would have taken the count from the first knockdown he would have bounced back quickly, but the ninth round barrage Sugar unleashed on him was one of the most savage combonations I have seen in years.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The first fight was down to the wire due to the three knockdowns, but I honestly do not see how anyone could have scored the rematch for Pacquiao.

Yep I had the same score as you, 8 rounds to 4 for JMM.

[street bully]

It was a great fight, but you guys need to chill with the Marquez was robbed ****. Pac won 115 IMO and even if you had it even going into the championship rounds (I didn't I had pac ahead), pac still won 2 outta the last 3, solidifying the win for him.

Bottom line is this, the rematch didn't happen because Marquez thought he was bigger than he was. Remember this was the same guy who turned down a career high payday (rematch with Pac) to go fight chris john for 30k only to get outboxed by him in idonesia. After Pac beat him for a second time, then was nothing else left to prove with him.

Marquez won the 12th round clear as day.