Pacquiao should have given Marquez an immediate rematch at 135.

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  • project xxx1
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    #71
    Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
    Oscar doesn't count. Cotto was at a CW.

    Clottey is the only WW he's fought so far and he came in at 45'.

    His best weight is anything from 30-45.
    we say that now but at the time oscar was a favourite and manny won,cotto didnt have to take the fight at 145 but he did,mannys just beat some of the best ww so imo his best weight is between 140-147

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      #72
      I would love a 3rd fight, just for the sole reason of shutting you crybabies up. I honestly think it would be pointless, because Marquez doesn't last 5 rounds with Manny now. Manny's footwork was the reason the fight was close then, and know that he has completely improved it (and continues to get better in that area), Marquez has no chance against him.

      The day Marquez fight Pac for the third time, will be the day we see the last of him and his story book career (JMM).

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        #73
        Originally posted by S A M U R A I
        Just to be exact and get some facts and figures up here:


        2006 | 129 | Morales III | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 15 lbs
        2007 | 130 | Barrera II | Ring Weight: 144 | Rehydration: 14lbs
        2008 | 129 | Marquez II | Ring Weight: 145 | Rehydration: 16lbs
        2008 | 134½ | Diaz | Ring Weight: 147 | Rehydration: 12½ lbs
        2008 | 142 | De La Hoya | Ring Weight: 148.5 | Rehydration: 6½ lbs
        2009 | 138 | Hatton | Ring Weight: 148 | Rehydration: 10 lbs
        2009 | 144 | Cotto | Ring Weight: 149 | Rehydration: 5 lbs
        An organised *******.



        Thank you brother.

        Ps. Street, I know Pac is faster back then. That was my point, but I'm saying this Pac now is only slightly slower but much more accurate and powerful.

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          #74
          Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
          It was a great fight, but you guys need to chill with the Marquez was robbed ****. Pac won 115 IMO and even if you had it even going into the championship rounds (I didn't I had pac ahead), pac still won 2 outta the last 3, solidifying the win for him.

          Bottom line is this, the rematch didn't happen because Marquez thought he was bigger than he was. Remember this was the same guy who turned down a career high payday (rematch with Pac) to go fight chris john for 30k only to get outboxed by him in idonesia. After Pac beat him for a second time, then was nothing else left to prove with him.
          Marquez beat John silly.

          I watched that fight recently and gave John 3 rounds. It was man against boy.

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            #75
            Originally posted by PensionKiller
            An organised *******.



            Thank you brother.

            Ps. Street, I know Pac is faster back then. That was my point, but I'm saying this Pac now is only slightly slower but much more accurate and powerful.


            Pac kills JMM in a third fight..

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              #76
              Originally posted by street bully
              Marquez won the 12th round clear as day.
              yeah but Pac won rounds 10 and 11. You guys are reaching hard as hell...esp saying Marquez won 8 rounds. But hey.....people now and days gotta find any reason to try and descredit Manny now n days.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                I want to see how Margarito looks in a tuneup before I make that determination.

                If he still has it, he will mow Packy down.
                margos finished imo,the beating he took was a bad one,if the old margo turns ups then manny would have his hands full because margo comes to fight

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                  I would love a 3rd fight, just for the sole reason of shutting you crybabies up. I honestly think it would be pointless, because Marquez doesn't last 5 rounds with Manny now. Manny's footwork was the reason the fight was close then, and know that he has completely improved it (and continues to get better in that area), Marquez has no chance against him.

                  The day Marquez fight Pac for the third time, will be the day we see the last of him and his story book career (JMM).
                  Weight hardly matters in this fight. Pac will have a slight advantage, but the problem will always by a stylistic one for him against JMM.

                  JMM is a counterpuncher, has great footwork, and a great right hand.

                  All kryptonite to Packy. Its a bad match for him and Arum knows it. I talked to Freddy about it at the gym and he admitted as much to me personally.

                  JMM is a nightmare for Pac.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by S A M U R A I
                    We'll have to disagree on this bro. I think Marquez stands no chance at 140+ with this current version of Pacquiao. I don't think he's avoided him either, Manny's just probably sick of his face by now.
                    No Manny's sick of JMM's fist in his face.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                      yeah but Pac won rounds 10 and 11. You guys are reaching hard as hell...esp saying Marquez won 8 rounds. But hey.....people now and days gotta find any reason to try and descredit Manny now n days.
                      Yeah ok, as one of the non bias Manny fans here I must be discrediting him.

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