Pacquiao should have given Marquez an immediate rematch at 135.

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  • zeidrich
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    #91
    a 3rd fight should happen but GBP screwed marquez with a 50/50 + drug test demand....

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      #92
      Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
      Considering he was robbed 2x, 50/50 is the least they could do.

      LOL but come on Jack... I like JMM is a shame a lot of fighters ducked him in his prime. But, you know JMM asking for 50-50 split was insane. Even if he and everybody else felt he won both fights asking for 50-50 was not going to make it happen. He outpriced himself out of the rubbermatch. And, I don't think it was JMM. Personally I think JMM would fight Pac for free. But, I think it was Nacho. Great trainer horrible manager. The third fight not happening and 2nd fight not happening sooner falls on Nacho bro. And, you know that...

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        #93
        pac didnt want to get schooled again....pac always had power-speed-chin-size over JMM and still couldnt make up for the skill difference.....JMM is a monster

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          #94
          i really dont get it why you guys have a score of 115-113 in in favor to which fighter the fight was very close imo but its easy to score each round since its very clear, the fight ws decided by the knockdown in the third round 114-113. if you can show your scores pls do let me check what rounds you gave to each fighter.thanks

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            #95
            Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
            yes I admit his style is difficult. He is an ATG....what do you expect? I seriously think you guys are missing the reason why Manny struggled against counter punchers. It had soley to do with his flaws in poor footwork and positioning. Roach noticed this after the Marquez fight, and has been working like crazy to fix this. That is why he recently mentioned that they speed 2-3 hours a day just working on his box drill, in which manny works on keeping his feet a certain distance apart when he punches and moves.

            I have notice a night n day difference in that department and just like people thought a body puncher would kill pac, only to be proven wrong, they will be in for a rude awaking thinking he will struggle against a counter puncher again.

            I mean do you guys really want me to break down exactly what he was doing wrong in the Marquez fight and how he has improved? I would be more than happy to if you like.
            The only reason he's looked better is because of tailor made come forward opponents w/ no defense.

            Hatton, Cotto, Diaz.

            I don't count Oscar since he was dead at the weight and Clottey doesn't really fit into any category w/ his weird ass style.

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              #96
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              LOL but come on Jack... I like JMM is a shame a lot of fighters ducked him in his prime. But, you know JMM asking for 50-50 split was insane. Even if he and everybody else felt he won both fights asking for 50-50 was not going to make it happen. He outpriced himself out of the rubbermatch. And, I don't think it was JMM. Personally I think JMM would fight Pac for free. But, I think it was Nacho. Great trainer horrible manager. The third fight not happening and 2nd fight not happening sooner falls on Nacho bro. And, you know that...
              You are 100% right about Nacho. Great trainer, but he ruined the Marquez bro's business.

              I think Rafa resents him for this which is why he jumped ship and trains w/ Zaragoza now.


              Originally posted by ianntheman
              i really dont get it why you guys have a score of 115-113 in in favor to which fighter the fight was very close imo but its easy to score each round since its very clear, the fight ws decided by the knockdown in the third round 114-113. if you can show your scores pls do let me check what rounds you gave to each fighter.thanks
              I watched the second fight w/ a room full of pinoys and they all thought Pac was gonna lose the decision. You can imagine how loud it was when buffer read the scorecards...

              smh....

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                #97
                Originally posted by street bully
                While he was wasting his time with David Diaz he should have locked horns with the Mexican warrior again. It's sad that the trilogy did not happen. Marquez imo deserved the win in the rematch, and at least deserved a third fight to show what he was about.
                i agree. pacquiao should have gave him that 3rd fight. marquez deserved it.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                  The only reason he's looked better is because of tailor made come forward opponents w/ no defense.

                  Hatton, Cotto, Diaz.

                  I don't count Oscar since he was dead at the weight and Clottey doesn't really fit into any category w/ his weird ass style.
                  All of those guy fight entirely different, which is why I don't understand how you can group them all together. I don't have any beef with you jack, because I enjoy co-signing you when you are out sonning other fan bases...lol, But in reality he has defiantly corrected the things that kept getting him countered.

                  Simple thins such as Jabbing with his lead foot on the outside of his opponents lead foot. He was caught several times with the right hand againt Marquez because of this and has since corrected it.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    All of those guy fight entirely different, which is why I don't understand how you can group them all together. I don't have any beef with you jack, because I enjoy co-signing you when you are out sonning other fan bases...lol, But in reality he has defiantly corrected the things that kept getting him countered.

                    Simple thins such as Jabbing with his lead foot on the outside of his opponents lead foot. He was caught several times with the right hand againt Marquez because of this and has since corrected it.
                    I got no beef w/ you either my brotha...

                    I didn't mean those guys were all the same. Just that they were come forward types that can be hit easily and didn't have the skills JMM did.

                    Pac will always look good against guys that come to him. JMM is a stylistic nightmare for anyone tbh.

                    Pac doesn't lose anything in my eyes for struggling w/ him. JMM is just that good.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                      I got no beef w/ you either my brotha...

                      I didn't mean those guys were all the same. Just that they were come forward types that can be hit easily and didn't have the skills JMM did.

                      Pac will always look good against guys that come to him. JMM is a stylistic nightmare for anyone tbh.

                      Pac doesn't lose anything in my eyes for struggling w/ him. JMM is just that good.
                      Yeah I agree. JMM gives anyone problems....

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