Pacquiao should have given Marquez an immediate rematch at 135.

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  • S A M U R A I
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    #41
    Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
    Bull****.

    Ariza has gone on record to say that Manny of today can still easily make 135.

    They have to feed him like a horse just to keep him above 140.
    Nah, they feed him lots to keep him heavy enough for WW, not Jr. WW. The article I read disagrees with what you're saying, claiming instead that Pacquiao isn't comfortable making 135, although it's still possible to get there. I'll try to find it and post it but hell knows where it is now.



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    • koboy
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      #42
      Originally posted by rabagiyo
      Only if Marquez didn't have a glassy chin .
      "Down goes Marquez!!!"

      Which one? Rafa or Juan?

      Both brothers have to stop falling down because it cost them the biggest fights of their lives.

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        #43
        Originally posted by street bully
        He says he can make 135 easy, he woke up against Clottey weighing 142 pounds. Was 134 pounds the morning of the Hatton fight before two meals. Pacquiao would and still could make 135 pounds with ease.
        JMM fight is too much of a risk. Pac knew he got lucky with the decision in the rematch.

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          #44
          Originally posted by rabagiyo
          LMAO don't you follow the boxer you're trying to defend? His own team said he can still make 135 easily so shut the **** up.
          LOL. Who the **** are you?

          I'm not defending anyone, so stop being ******. I'm stating what I read in the press. Don't like it? Go sit on a broom handle.



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            #45
            Originally posted by koboy
            There's a reason why there are three judges because each one sees a different fight in the ring. Some judges like effective aggression, punch accuracy, ring generalship. The only guaranteed score is a knockdown and that's what Manny had in his favour. The rest is purely subjective.

            Besides, it wasn't a robbery or some ridiculous score but it was an SD win, which states that it wasn't clear at all.
            Other than knock Marquez down, Pacquiao was beaten in pucnh accuracy, shots landed, consistancy in rounds, ring generalship, and looked the least comfortable of the two.

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              #46
              Originally posted by S A M U R A I
              Nah, they feed him lots to keep him heavy enough for WW, not Jr. WW. The article I read disagrees with what you're saying, claiming instead that Pacquiao isn't comfortable making 135, although it's still possible to get there. I'll try to find it and post it but hell knows where it is now.
              It was only a few weeks ago leading up to the clottey fight.

              His exact words were: "Manny can still make 135 easily"...

              Thats the guy that weighs him and keeps records of his daily weight so I doubt he is wrong.

              Plus, I believe him simply because I know Manny is not a WW. His best weight is between 130 and 135.

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                #47
                Originally posted by koboy
                "Down goes Marquez!!!"

                Which one? Rafa or Juan?

                Both brothers have to stop falling down because it cost them the biggest fights of their lives.
                I also had Rafa beating Izzy in the third fight.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by rabagiyo
                  No *******s arguing here?
                  Well I corrected you that the 3rd Morales fight was the choice of Morales because of the rematch clause. Seems like you ignored that

                  As for a JMM remtach, it is clear that Pac fights better when he doesn't have to rehydrate so much.

                  Whether he can make it or not, a Pac at 140 or above is a better fighter than a Pac that is 130 or below. A 135 Pac was actually still very fast and had good movement.

                  The same goes for JMM. His best weight is 126/130. At 135 he looked terrible against Diaz for me and not great against Cassmayor.

                  When pAC WAS AT 135, THE JMM fight was never gonna happen when a big payday with Oscar was on the arizon with Oscar pushing Manny for it.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by koboy
                    "Down goes Marquez!!!"

                    Which one? Rafa or Juan?

                    Both brothers have to stop falling down because it cost them the biggest fights of their lives.
                    Rafa was robbed in the vazquez trilogy.

                    He dominated most of that fight and gave Vazquez a boxing lesson. then Russell jobs him on the point deduction and Vazquez steals the 12th round and bam...

                    Another robbery.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by street bully
                      Other than knock Marquez down, Pacquiao was beaten in pucnh accuracy, shots landed, consistancy in rounds, ring generalship, and looked the least comfortable of the two.
                      This is what you saw and what others also did. Some saw Pacquiao's aggression, harder punching and the KD as the clincher. It was an SD, it wasn't clear at all.

                      Clear was PBF vs Marquez. Or Pac vs Clottey. Those are clear.

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