Pacquiao should have given Marquez an immediate rematch at 135.

[Khalid X]

Again Pac is faster now than he was back then, footwork has improve entirely (reason why marquez was able to counter him), has more power and is more complete on both the offensive and defensive end.

Believe me when I say this, Pac kills Marquez now...the **** doesnt even last 5 rounds. Marquez and his fans better just live with those so called Moral victories..lol

[Glamour Puss]

yeah but Pac won rounds 10 and 11. You guys are reaching hard as hell...esp saying Marquez won 8 rounds. But hey.....people now and days gotta find any reason to try and descredit Manny now n days.

I give Manny props all the time.

But the JMM fights were a different story.

[jrosales13]

Didn't JMM ask for a 50-50 split?

[Khalid X]

Yeah ok, as one of the non bias Manny fans here I must be discrediting him.

not you bully. I was saying other people...

[Glamour Puss]

Again Pac is faster now than he was back then, footwork has improve entirely (reason why marquez was able to counter him), has more power and is more complete on both the offensive and defensive end.

Believe me when I say this, Pac kills Marquez now...the **** doesnt even last 5 rounds. Marquez and his fans better just live with those so called Moral victories..lol

Pac just better hope age has caught up to JMM.

[Khalid X]

Didn't JMM ask for a 50-50 split?

exactly....JMM and him thinking he is better than he is killed any chances of a third fight.

[project xxx1]

Didn't JMM ask for a 50-50 split?

he did indeed after coming off a loss to floyd,arum would never give him that

[Xyei]

I'm glad he didn't though, boxing would have been so much different.

Remember, it was after Diaz that the suggestion of Pac vs Oscar became a reality.

If pac stuck at 135, fought Marquez again, who knows what would have happened.

I think I have to agree with this statement. I originally wanted the rubber match as most did but he may never have fought Cotto if that had happened. I watched the Pac/JMM 2 fight twice and both times I scored it for Pacquiao just barely. I think that fight could have gone either way TBH. Those two would never be in a boring fight. They are each other's kryptonite, so to speak.

At this point, the rubber match doesn't make much sense, unfortunately. Pac's got much more lucrative possibilities.

[Glamour Puss]

Didn't JMM ask for a 50-50 split?

Considering he was robbed 2x, 50/50 is the least they could do.

[Khalid X]

Weight hardly matters in this fight. Pac will have a slight advantage, but the problem will always by a stylistic one for him against JMM.

JMM is a counterpuncher, has great footwork, and a great right hand.

All kryptonite to Packy. Its a bad match for him and Arum knows it. I talked to Freddy about it at the gym and he admitted as much to me personally.

JMM is a nightmare for Pac.

yes I admit his style is difficult. He is an ATG....what do you expect? I seriously think you guys are missing the reason why Manny struggled against counter punchers. It had soley to do with his flaws in poor footwork and positioning. Roach noticed this after the Marquez fight, and has been working like crazy to fix this. That is why he recently mentioned that they speed 2-3 hours a day just working on his box drill, in which manny works on keeping his feet a certain distance apart when he punches and moves.

I have notice a night n day difference in that department and just like people thought a body puncher would kill pac, only to be proven wrong, they will be in for a rude awaking thinking he will struggle against a counter puncher again.

I mean do you guys really want me to break down exactly what he was doing wrong in the Marquez fight and how he has improved? I would be more than happy to if you like.