Mayweather Will Have A Field Day On Shane

[^^Cody^^]

I can't tallk to the TS, cuz he's a moron, but you seem to be able to hold a good conversation. Let's start here.


right I am going to write some of Shanes flaws I challenge anyone to try and form a logical rebutal....


Shane's handspeed and footspeed have dimished since hes gotten older. True, i think that happens to every single human being alive if I"m not mistaken. perhaps this is why floyd finally decided to fight him. anyway, there are boxing strategies that can counteract this and don't forget that shane is the fastest guy floyd has fought since zab.

Shane has very little head movement whenever he gets hit he doesn't even guard he just jingles his hands out to create distance. this may be true, however, it only affects shane when he's at a distance from floyd and I don't expect this fight to be at a distance all fight

Shane has become more of a 1,2 power puncher as he has aged he is no longer the combination puncher he used to be back in his 135 lb days.
not even close to as bad as floyd has since he's been at 147. advantage shane. see shanve v margs, shane v collazo

Shane has a subpar Jab, Shane simply uses his left jab as a range finder or as a disguise for his right hand. shane has a much better jab when he needs it.

Miguel Cotto showed us movement and a jab can greatly fustrate Shane Mosley.....and I wouldn't even class Cotto as a master boxer.

cotto pre margs was a different fighter, i think we can all agree on that. cotto-shane was a very close to even fight, shane didn't have nazam in his corner for this fight either, i believe shane wil come with a much better game plan. shane came on late in that fight too, something to look for in this fight as floyd will have to actually work hard on may 1.

Here we go again "Perhaps that's why Floyd finally decided to fight him?!?" WTF?!? Floyd was begging for a fight with Shane back when Shane was the best lightweight in the world and Floyd was the best Super Featherweight in the world. Shane's tooth was loose, then he wanted to go on a vacation. etc. etc. Floyd continued to call him out and finally Shane decided to fight Oscar.

I don't necessarily blame Shane for choosing to fight Oscar as it was the most lucrative option at the time both financially and legacy-wise, but for Pete's sake, DON'T say Floyd never tried to fight Shane. Shane just started wanting to fight Floyd as of late when he started looking at revenue. Please do some research. You lost most of your credibility back when you were making a big deal out of the difference between 5 and 9. The rest was lost right here.

[Walt Liquor]

i do agree that it sux that it's utterly impossible to hold a decent boxing conversation in nsb.

[^^Cody^^]

i do agree that it sux that it's utterly impossible to hold a decent boxing conversation in nsb.

Walt, why don't you try making some factual arguments instead of ridiculous statements like: oh maybe since he's old that's why Floyd finally decided to fight. Surely you are more educated than that! Anybody who has been following boxing closely for any length of time knows that Floyd was salivating for a fight with Shane back then.

[Walt Liquor]

Here we go again "Perhaps that's why Floyd finally decided to fight him?!?" WTF?!? Floyd was begging for a fight with Shane back when Shane was the best lightweight in the world and Floyd was the best Super Featherweight in the world. Shane's tooth was loose, then he wanted to go on a vacation. etc. etc. Floyd continued to call him out and finally Shane decided to fight Oscar.

I don't necessarily blame Shane for choosing to fight Oscar as it was the most lucrative option at the time both financially and legacy-wise, but for Pete's sake, DON'T say Floyd never tried to fight Shane. Shane just started wanting to fight Floyd as of late when he started looking at revenue. Please do some research. You lost most of your credibility back when you were making a big deal out of the difference between 5 and 9. The rest was lost right here.

I typed that to see if the Floyd stans still do the same old thing on here- which is pick one thing in an entire rebuttle to pinpoint and completley ignore the entire point of contradictory posts to your opinion and you fell right into it.

Floyd gets some props for finally fighting Shane and you can talk about all of the particulars and ifs and ands and buts and maybes you want to but the FACT is that Shane has fought many great fighters in their primes. He has a reputation (well deserved) for fighting the toughest challenges out there. Floyd does not (well deserved). So who does a logical person believe as to why the fight has never happened. Am I to believe that Shane would fight tough guys that are all wring for him but he avoided floyd? Or am I to believe the opposite?

I'm not a sucker for talk, you apparently are.

[Walt Liquor]

I can't tallk to the TS, cuz he's a moron, but you seem to be able to hold a good conversation. Let's start here.


right I am going to write some of Shanes flaws I challenge anyone to try and form a logical rebutal....


Shane's handspeed and footspeed have dimished since hes gotten older. True, i think that happens to every single human being alive if I"m not mistaken. perhaps this is why floyd finally decided to fight him. anyway, there are boxing strategies that can counteract this and don't forget that shane is the fastest guy floyd has fought since zab.

Shane has very little head movement whenever he gets hit he doesn't even guard he just jingles his hands out to create distance. this may be true, however, it only affects shane when he's at a distance from floyd and I don't expect this fight to be at a distance all fight

Shane has become more of a 1,2 power puncher as he has aged he is no longer the combination puncher he used to be back in his 135 lb days.
not even close to as bad as floyd has since he's been at 147. advantage shane. see shanve v margs, shane v collazo

Shane has a subpar Jab, Shane simply uses his left jab as a range finder or as a disguise for his right hand. shane has a much better jab when he needs it.

Miguel Cotto showed us movement and a jab can greatly fustrate Shane Mosley.....and I wouldn't even class Cotto as a master boxer.

cotto pre margs was a different fighter, i think we can all agree on that. cotto-shane was a very close to even fight, shane didn't have nazam in his corner for this fight either, i believe shane wil come with a much better game plan. shane came on late in that fight too, something to look for in this fight as floyd will have to actually work hard on may 1.

another point here is taht shane throws a lot more combos at 147 than he did at 154. A LOT. Maybe you are a little too influenced by his fights at 154 in your point that all he throws is the 1-2.

[^^Cody^^]

I typed that to see if the Floyd stans still do the same old thing on here- which is pick one thing in an entire rebuttle to pinpoint and completley ignore the entire point of contradictory posts to your opinion and you fell right into it.

Floyd gets some props for finally fighting Shane and you can talk about all of the particulars and ifs and ands and buts and maybes you want to but the FACT is that Shane has fought many great fighters in their primes. He has a reputation (well deserved) for fighting the toughest challenges out there. Floyd does not (well deserved). So who does a logical person believe as to why the fight has never happened. Am I to believe that Shane would fight tough guys that are all wring for him but he avoided floyd? Or am I to believe the opposite?

I'm not a sucker for talk, you apparently are.

Again with the name calling! "Floyd stans, sucker" you keep saying it sucks that nobody can have an intelligent conversation in nsb, but you are the one resorting to name-calling! No, I didn't ignore the other points in your post. You only posted that because you suspected that I would pick one thing out of your post and ignore the rest? The reason I decided to speak on that particular statement is because it's nonsense. If you don't want somebody to pick the nonsense out of your post, don't put any in there!

Who are you supposed to believe? I'm not asking you to believe anybody. All I'm asking is for you to go back and review the events leading up to De La Hoya vs Mosley 1, and judge for yourself. I don't have to go into detail discussing the dialogue. It's all there. Have a look.

[Walt Liquor]

Walt, why don't you try making some factual arguments instead of ridiculous statements like: oh maybe since he's old that's why Floyd finally decided to fight. Surely you are more educated than that! Anybody who has been following boxing closely for any length of time knows that Floyd was salivating for a fight with Shane back then.

Well, let's see, I already pointed out your Baldomir comment (which you are ignoring), I answered that other guy's points in order, but you seem to be waaay to focused on defending Floyd's words in calling out Shane in the past.

I judge by what happens, not what people say they want to do. I'm waiting on the intelligent Floyd poster in this thread to respond. Not you.

[El 7 Mares V.2]

I expect the best of PBF in this fight. This is one reason why I prefer this matchup to Pac-PBF. It won't be one sided. But we will see more aggression from PBF than we've seen in a while. I can't wait.

Agreed, I much rather see this fight than Pac-Floyd. There's the whole "ducking" bad blood between them, the fact Shane is on a streak now and the fact that he can cause a lot of problems for Floyd IMO.

[^^Cody^^]

Well, let's see, I already pointed out your Baldomir comment (which you are ignoring), I answered that other guy's points in order, but you seem to be waaay to focused on defending Floyd's words in calling out Shane in the past.

I judge by what happens, not what people say they want to do. I'm waiting on the intelligent Floyd poster in this thread to respond. Not you.

Now you are insinuating that you are more intelligent than me. And for the record, I'm not a "Floyd poster." I'm just a regular boxing fan. You guys assume that just because somebody picks Floyd to win, they are automatically "stans" etc. I don't like Floyd all that much personally. I don't know that man! The only thing I know is what he does in the ring. Disect people LIKE INSECTS.

[Walt Liquor]

Again with the name calling! "Floyd stans, sucker" you keep saying it sucks that nobody can have an intelligent conversation in nsb, but you are the one resorting to name-calling! No, I didn't ignore the other points in your post. You only posted that because you suspected that I would pick one thing out of your post and ignore the rest? The reason I decided to speak on that particular statement is because it's nonsense. If you don't want somebody to pick the nonsense out of your post, don't put any in there!

Who are you supposed to believe? I'm not asking you to believe anybody. All I'm asking is for you to go back and review the events leading up to De La Hoya vs Mosley 1, and judge for yourself. I don't have to go into detail discussing the dialogue. It's all there. Have a look.

coming from the guy that compared baldomir's 9 losses to shane's 5 losses. look, don't blame me because I can tell you are waaaaay biased toward floyd.

I am not. I am a shane fan, but I'm not a shane fanboy.

you can look at everything you want, oscar was a much tougher fight for shane than floyd was at the time. it's such a ridiculous argument that you are making that it's not even worth talking about anymore. name one reason why shane should have taken on a lesser opponent for less money? there have been plenty of opportunities since, and shane does not have a resume that needs to be defended. floyd does.