Mayweather Will Have A Field Day On Shane

[DuttyAlacrity]

I can't tallk to the TS, cuz he's a moron, but you seem to be able to hold a good conversation. Let's start here.


right I am going to write some of Shanes flaws I challenge anyone to try and form a logical rebutal....


Shane's handspeed and footspeed have dimished since hes gotten older. True, i think that happens to every single human being alive if I"m not mistaken. perhaps this is why floyd finally decided to fight him. anyway, there are boxing strategies that can counteract this and don't forget that shane is the fastest guy floyd has fought since zab.

This subject has been beaten like a dead horse but Floyd did call Mosely out for a challenge on two different occassions. It's well documented that shane out priced himself the first time and didn't seem to want to fight Floyd the second time (the famous toothache excuse). With that being said, I believe Shane still has pretty good speed and I agree with your assessment that Shane is probably the fastest guy Floyd will be in the ring with since Zab.

Shane has very little head movement whenever he gets hit he doesn't even guard he just jingles his hands out to create distance. this may be true, however, it only affects shane when he's at a distance from floyd and I don't expect this fight to be at a distance all fight
Shane really doesn't have much head movement or defense. He's a fighter first, a boxer second. This fight has the potential to be whatever fight floyd wants quite frankly. Floyd is exceptionally good at making other fighters fight his kind of fight. There's only been 1 occassion in which one can reference in which floyd was "forced" to box in a manner in which he was uncomfortable. As someone mentioned earlier, Shane does not adjust well in fights.

Shane has become more of a 1,2 power puncher as he has aged he is no longer the combination puncher he used to be back in his 135 lb days.
not even close to as bad as floyd has since he's been at 147. advantage shane. see shanve v margs, shane v collazo
Activity definitely goes in the Shane column. He is far more active than floyd. That's not to say he will be more effective than floyd in the fight though

Shane has a subpar Jab, Shane simply uses his left jab as a range finder or as a disguise for his right hand. shane has a much better jab when he needs it.
Yea when he needs it, but really when was the last time we've seen Shane use the Jab effectively or as apart of his repertoire? Surely, Shane doesn't have a better Jab than Oscar and we saw what Floyd did to Oscar's Jab.

Miguel Cotto showed us movement and a jab can greatly fustrate Shane Mosley.....and I wouldn't even class Cotto as a master boxer.

cotto pre margs was a different fighter, i think we can all agree on that. cotto-shane was a very close to even fight, shane didn't have nazam in his corner for this fight either, i believe shane wil come with a much better game plan. shane came on late in that fight too, something to look for in this fight as floyd will have to actually work hard on may 1.

Brother Nazeem is one of the best trainers out there and I know he's cooking up a plan, but brother Nazeem can't fight for Shane. What happens when floyd adjusts? What will he do then? My guess is he will probably revert to his brawling style. Floyd will definitely have to work hard on May 1st. Honestly though, my take is: after about the first 4 rds or so Floyd will adjust comfortably and Shane will not. UD Floyd

[Walt Liquor]

Now you are insinuating that you are more intelligent than me. And for the record, I'm not a "Floyd poster." I'm just a regular boxing fan. You guys assume that just because somebody picks Floyd to win, they are automatically "stans" etc. I don't like Floyd all that much personally. I don't know that man! The only thing I know is what he does in the ring. Disect people LIKE INSECTS.

If you were neutral, you would not be completely focused on one comment and ignore everything else that was said.

All I know is that Floyd and Shane should have fought long ago, and Shane has a proven rack record of fighting the best in their primes, Floyd has a much different track record. Therefore, Shane has more credibility in that regard.

I'm ecstatic floyd is fighting Shane, even now. If you will see my bets, you see I am betting on Shane, so obviously Floyd gets credit for taking a fight I think he has a chance of losing.

[dans]

I think Mosley can make this a fight, which is all I really care about.

Hatton made Floyd fight and it brought out the best in Floyd. I'm hoping for the same here.

[^^Cody^^]

coming from the guy that compared baldomir's 9 losses to shane's 5 losses. look, don't blame me because I can tell you are waaaaay biased toward floyd.

I am not. I am a shane fan, but I'm not a shane fanboy.

you can look at everything you want, oscar was a much tougher fight for shane than floyd was at the time. it's such a ridiculous argument that you are making that it's not even worth talking about anymore. name one reason why shane should have taken on a lesser opponent for less money? there have been plenty of opportunities since, and shane does not have a resume that needs to be defended. floyd does.

Go back and read my post about this subject. I said: I can't necessarily blame Shane for not fighting Floyd at that time for both financial reasons and legacy reasons, but don't say Floyd has been ducking Shane. I haven't said anybody has been "ducking" anybody. You have stated that Floyd "finally" wants to fight Shane. I don't know how to state my point any more clearly.

[^^Cody^^]

coming from the guy that compared baldomir's 9 losses to shane's 5 losses. look, don't blame me because I can tell you are waaaaay biased toward floyd.

I am not. I am a shane fan, but I'm not a shane fanboy.

you can look at everything you want, oscar was a much tougher fight for shane than floyd was at the time. it's such a ridiculous argument that you are making that it's not even worth talking about anymore. name one reason why shane should have taken on a lesser opponent for less money? there have been plenty of opportunities since, and shane does not have a resume that needs to be defended. floyd does.

I am not "waaaaay biased toward floyd." I have an opinion that this fight is a technical mismatch and I stand beside that opinion. How does that make me biased? I'm not defending Floyd's word that he called Shane out. I'm defending history.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Mayweather puts a Boxing Clinic on Mosley, I bet it's going to be his best performance at welterweight yet.

[^^Cody^^]

If you were neutral, you would not be completely focused on one comment and ignore everything else that was said.

All I know is that Floyd and Shane should have fought long ago, and Shane has a proven rack record of fighting the best in their primes, Floyd has a much different track record. Therefore, Shane has more credibility in that regard.

I'm ecstatic floyd is fighting Shane, even now. If you will see my bets, you see I am betting on Shane, so obviously Floyd gets credit for taking a fight I think he has a chance of losing.

Forget it. This is the reason why I don't come to this forum often. Impossible to talk to people like you. You think the sun rises and sets in Shane's ass and you have your head so far up it you can't see the truth. That's it.

[Walt Liquor]

Brother Nazeem is one of the best trainers out there and I know he's cooking up a plan, but brother Nazeem can't fight for Shane. What happens when floyd adjusts? What will he do then? My guess is he will probably revert to his brawling style. Floyd will definitely have to work hard on May 1st. Honestly though, my take is: after about the first 4 rds or so Floyd will adjust comfortably and Shane will not. UD Floyd

I'll answer this first, and thanks for answering my post.

I may be going on a hunch here, but I believe that between Nasam, Bernard, and Shane, they may be able to figure out what Floyd's adjustment will be and fight a different fight in the second half or adjust their offensive game plan.

We agreed on about half of my points, but to the others,

1) for the last time, there is a lot of history between these two guys as to he said she said and documents and call outs and whatnot. all of that is just talk. If you look at actions, not words. You know the answer to this ad nauseum conversation.

2) Floyd is definitely a master boxer, IMO only second in the game in boxing IQ, which is saying a lot. In recent years, like say the last 7, Floyd has run the show in the ring- However, I would challenge you in that Floyd hasn't faced a strong WW, that can put on intelligent pressure similiar to what happened 8 years ago in the fight you are talking about. Shane will catch up to floyd at some point in the fight and also closes the show very strong. Floyd has not dealt with this kind of force ever, or at least in about 8-9 years. Now with all that being said, if anyone wins an easy fight here, it would be floyd, so my pick is certainly well in the minority.

3) Shane will need a double jab or jab to the body in this fight.

People are always saying Shane has never fought anyone like Floyd, well the same holds true for Floyd. Floyd has been walking on easy street since 2002, he's crossing back over to the wrong side of the tracks for this fight.

[Mr. Philadel]

Mayweather wishes it was a field so he can run more freely.

this was funny!!!.....but at some point I expect Floyd to sit in the pocket and man up.....for some reason I think he'll stand and **** at some point!!....he'll skate MOST of the night, but at some time during the dance Floyd will stand and ****....I feel it!!!.....and thats when it'll happen....BOOM!!!......Shane puts him to sleep!!!

[Walt Liquor]

Forget it. This is the reason why I don't come to this forum often. Impossible to talk to people like you. You think the sun rises and sets in Shane's ass and you have your head so far up it you can't see the truth. That's it.

Thank God,

I already didn't want to talk to you.

I found someone to have a rational conversation with in this thread. Please don't bother us.