Roach: MMA has a brighter future than Boxing, harder for a boxer to go into MMA

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  • intoccabile
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    #31
    Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
    God you are so full of ****. Seriously.

    MMA? It's UFC. Understand the difference. MMA is NOT popular worldwide. It has failed in Japan. It has failed in Europe.

    It is popular in England, USA, Canada and now Australia. Its not even wildly popular in Brazil or Russia contrary to myths. And in THose four main countries UFC Is the ONLY MMA anyone cares about. No one watches other brands.

    Now on top of that: Soccer is the most popular because its the cheapest easiest sport to play for all countries. Many noted sports historians have said this.

    Finally and lastly you know when Dana challenged Floyd, Kermit Cintron stepped up and like that GIANT ****ING ***** he is, Dana ducked Cintrons challenge.

    How come Dana ducked RJJRs MMA challenge to Silva.

    Get your facts correct before defending your white trash UFC organization. And the fact that washed up boxers only try UFC should tell you about the payouts between the two sports.

    UFC fans are brainwashed by that lying piece of **** Dana. And as long as they are they'll continue to spread bull**** and myths like the above.
    Yeah.. Pride was in no way shape or form popular in japan. DREAM is also not popular there at all either.

    Seriously man, get a clue. Though it's declining, mma is huge in japan.

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    • Biolink
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      #32
      Even if MMA had crappy undercards most of those fights end up with someone getting knocked out, so it still satisfies the public

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      • Lead Cenobite
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        #33
        Originally posted by intoccabile
        Yeah.. Pride was in no way shape or form popular in japan. DREAM is also not popular there at all either.

        Seriously man, get a clue. Though it's declining, mma is huge in japan.
        I never said pride wasnt popular learn to read. Pride WAS huge

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        • Lakas
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          #34
          Freddie in a way is right. But boxing is getting more popular lately. I like boxing's future tho

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          • TheGoldStandard
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            #35
            Originally posted by Lead Cenobite
            You think dream has taken off? Wow. Have you checked the ratings? Buy a clue from somewhere other than Dana's ballsack. Japan has embraced boxing again (the three Kameda brothers are more famous and sell out way faster than Dream or any MMA org), and of course puroresu. But hey, keep imaging that anyone cares about Dream (they don't). The MMA fad there is over. Despite what baldy might tell you.

            MMA is NOT popular worldwide except of course what Dana feeds you. UFC has run events in germany and mainland Europe to little success. If you think UFC being popular in the US, Canada and Aussieland with some inroads into England = the world---> you need a reality check.

            Also, Define doing well? There are many small companies in the US that are doing Toughman contests. You think that sport has taken off here? How about American kickboxing. Tons of small orgs here, but you think the public has embraced that sport? Fail logic.
            @ you assuming every MMA fan is on Dana's nuts. Dream is nowhere near as popular as Pride but it's been doing well in TV ratings and attendance numbers. Japan has not said farewell to MMA and probably never will.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Bulge
              I dont see how anyone in there right mind can say it's harder to go from boxing to mma then it is to go from mma to boxing. Most guys on sherdog even know better.

              First off.. MMA is what it says. Mixed. If you have already mastered that one aspect, then you at least being a boxer have a punchers chance. It's about being good at 2-3 things rather then mastering one art.

              Iv'e never heard of MMA guy's transfering over to boxing and suceeding, but there are multiple guys who come from boxing and do ok. Some better then others. Most if not all the guys who go over are failed or past it boxers.
              It's a double edged sword with tranferring into mma. having already mastered boxing it definitely gives you an edge. But to be truly successful you have to un-learn alot of boxing habits that would get you killed in mma.

              Just as wrestlers have a tough time adjusting into mma because in wrestling being on your back is the absolute worst place to be in...while in mma that habit of trying to get off your back will get them choked out.


              And the reason mma fighters dont succeed in boxing is because those that have attempted to do it simply did not have the proper physical attributes that would allow them to be successful in boxing.

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              • hateinyaeyes32
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                #37
                Originally posted by RSBonos
                Like the UFC could even afford Floyd (they could but that would piss off the 90% of their contracted fighters that earn peanuts).

                Kermit Cintron offered to fight Shrek, his salary would have been reasonable and he even had some basic background in wrestling. Dana White responded by pretending that he didn't know who he was.

                Roach either doesn't know much about MMA or he is pandering to the MMA media. Please name me one MMA fighter that could become a contender if he dedicated his life to boxing? On the other hand I don't see how some world class boxers can't transfer their skills over to MMA with a lot of cross-training, if kickboxers can do it so can boxers, the only reason there hasn't been a boxer in his prime to try it is because of lack of money. If a guy like Forrest Griffen can decide to become a MMA fighter in his early twenties without any combat sports background and eventually become the undisputed champion then so can a boxer who already has a humongous advantage with his punches over any other MMA fighter.
                great post... Green K added bro

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RSBonos
                  Like the UFC could even afford Floyd (they could but that would piss off the 90% of their contracted fighters that earn peanuts).

                  Kermit Cintron offered to fight Shrek, his salary would have been reasonable and he even had some basic background in wrestling. Dana White responded by pretending that he didn't know who he was.

                  Roach either doesn't know much about MMA or he is pandering to the MMA media. Please name me one MMA fighter that could become a contender if he dedicated his life to boxing? On the other hand I don't see how some world class boxers can't transfer their skills over to MMA with a lot of cross-training, if kickboxers can do it so can boxers, the only reason there hasn't been a boxer in his prime to try it is because of lack of money. If a guy like Forrest Griffen can decide to become a MMA fighter in his early twenties without any combat sports background and eventually become the undisputed champion then so can a boxer who already has a humongous advantage with his punches over any other MMA fighter.
                  Outside hardcore Boxing fans, no one really knows who Kermit Cintron is. Forrest Griffin trained in Boxing and Jujitsu before he began his career in MMA. Also, in his title fight, his opponent (Rampage) was robbed.

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                  • TheGoldStandard
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RSBonos
                    Please name me one MMA fighter that could become a contender if he dedicated his life to boxing?
                    Let me name you more than one. Anderson Silva, BJ Penn and Nick Diaz.

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                    • TheGoldStandard
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                      It's a double edged sword with tranferring into mma. having already mastered boxing it definitely gives you an edge. But to be truly successful you have to un-learn alot of boxing habits that would get you killed in mma.

                      Just as wrestlers have a tough time adjusting into mma because in wrestling being on your back is the absolute worst place to be in...while in mma that habit of trying to get off your back will get them choked out.


                      And the reason mma fighters dont succeed in boxing is because those that have attempted to do it simply did not have the proper physical attributes that would allow them to be successful in boxing.
                      "proper physical attributes" such as?

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