Bob Arum: "Only way Pac-Mayweather happens is without additional testing"

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #271
    Originally posted by deanrw
    Lets say you go to work tomorrow. Your boss wants you to submit to random blood testing. Not for any rhyme or reason, just because he has a hunch.

    Would you do it? I know I would not.
    I guess you like not getting paychecks.

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    • deanrw
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      #272
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Ok, that's you. And obviously, you're not Manny since he agreed to testing. Next point?


      Ok, that's you. And obviously, you're not Manny since he agreed to testing. Next point?

      I swear, people want to make up their OWN excuses for Manny.
      I am not making excuses for anyone. I am placing myself in both their shoes and I can see the point of both.

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      • rao007
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        #273
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        No answer?

        I said, "think hard"---if it was based on a hunch, why would Pacquiao need to take it? But in the public's eye --either take the tests or refuse them and looke guilty. Sucks to be Pacquiao...PED for life.
        Last edited by rao007; 03-15-2010, 03:12 PM.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #274
          Originally posted by deanrw
          I am not making excuses for anyone. I am placing myself in both their shoes and I can see the point of both.
          You're reasoning doesn't fall in with facts. Again, Manny agreed to submit to random testing. His whole team did. They were even talking ****. Get it?

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          • IMDAZED
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            #275
            Originally posted by rao007
            I said, "think hard"---if it was based on a hunch, why would Pacquiao need to take it? But in the public's eye it was a catch22---either take the tests or refuse them and looke guilty. Sucks to be Pacquiao...PED for life.
            Mayweather is a big player in the industry. You're a fan. Somehow I suspect he doesn't see things the way you do and probably knows a lot more about what's going on than you. Just a hunch.

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            • rao007
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              #276
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Mayweather is a big player in the industry. You're a fan. Somehow I suspect he doesn't see things the way you do and probably knows a lot more about what's going on than you. Just a hunch.
              Good for Mayweather for having his intuition--next time I place a bet on a suspected roider I'll call him for advice..that still doesn't explain why Pacquiao needs to take the tests based on his hunch, but seeing how it's in the media--it's in Pacquiao's hands whether to except or refuse them....

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              • Championart
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                #277
                Its incredible how Arum, Roach and Pac claim that they want this fight so badly but don't want to take random drug tests along with Mayweather. This is a disgrace and surely a red flag from their sides. Look how easy it was to make the Mosley fight with both fighters agreeing to the tests why can't Pac do the same if he wants this fight so badly. Its not like anyone is asking the world of him just take the test like Mayweather, Mosley, Abraham and Abraham's opponents are. Its only helping the sport of boxing.

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                • IMDAZED
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                  #278
                  Originally posted by rao007
                  Good for Mayweather for having his intuition--next time I place a bet on a suspected roider I'll call him for advice..that still doesn't explain why Pacquiao needs to take the tests based on his hunch, but seeing how it's in the media--it's in Pacquiao's whether to except or refuse them....
                  How do you know it's his intuition?

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    Lets say you go to work tomorrow. Your boss wants you to submit to random blood testing. Not for any rhyme or reason, just because he has a hunch.

                    Would you do it? I know I would not.
                    I really hate to be repetitive and this is gonna take some time but please read.

                    It's different.

                    Roach said "Pacquiao is willing to take any test, we'll pass with flying colors". (All the while, Arum was constantly throwing the 30 day cutoff). Then Roach said "We'll accept if we're given a 5 day window. Pacquiao is weak for 3-4 days after giving blood". Pacquiao since the start said he didn't want to be tested the day of/ the day before the fight. Then weeks later, he says he'll only agree to a 30 day cutoff. They hire a mediator, Mayweather's side is offered a 24 day cutoff, Mayweather's side offered a 14 day cutoff (Which is halfway), Pacquiao and his camp decline. Roach (On video) says that he agreed to the 14 day cutoff; which is a lie.

                    When Pacquiao is asked on ESPN about being offered a 14 day cutoff, his excuse was that he trains very hard during those 14 days. His other excuse was that he was weak after giving blood the day before facing Erik Morales. His recent one is, Mayweather is bigger and so on...

                    Now we're hearing he doesn't want to go through with it PERIOD.
                    Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 03-15-2010, 03:24 PM.

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                    • rao007
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                      #280
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      How do you know it's his intuition?

                      Doesn't matter if he's drawing from experience that was his "opinion" but seeing that Pacquiao might fight his son--he asked for them. However, that doesn't mean Pacquiao has to take them but it seems as demand for both to fight rises Pacquiao's genuine reason for not taking the tests may not matter---he will have to take it or not.

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