HORUS PRESENTS: WHY NoW???

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ok..I can dig it.

But why?

Why do you (you) think he is on something???????

His behavior regarding the testing and the excuses and and all the quotes it made me think he has something to hide.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Boxing as a sport certainly needs better testing. The current testing requirements are lightyears behind most other high profile professional sports. The absolute answer to 'why now?' though is that Floyd Mayweather Jr wants a psychological advantage over an opponent who is a real threat. If you seriously believe the Mayweather party line that he is interested in cleaning up the sport, then you are as gullible as a child. Mayweather is interested in himself and the advantages he can get. As a master of psychological warfare, Mayweather realises that round zero can be very important and getting Pacquiao to back down to new sanctions on the back of wild accusations gives an early advantage. I seriously doubt that Mayweather actually believes that Pacquiao uses PEDs.

Pacquiao has every right to be offended by the accusations and feel unwilling to back down to sanctions that are not imposed upon other fighters. Pacquiao is in an impossible situation if he wishes to actually fight Mayweather. To not make the fight happen on principle raises su****ion, however unfair this su****ion may be, but to make the fight happen he gives Mayweather the early advantage unless he can be mentally strong enough to shake it off.

bingo.

like i said before in a thread;

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=342685

Extra Steroid test = a way for floyd to save face

This is nothing more than a strategic ploy by the Fraudulent One to save face & have a reason why he didnt fight Pacquiao.

Asking a fighter, a first ballot hall of famer, a icon, 1# p4p best fighter in the world, arguably the biggest star of the sport, a test that has never been asked by any other fighter in the 100 plus year history of professional boxing is a down right insulting to Pacquiao.

The fight not being made due to testing controversy gives Fraudulent jr. a reason to not fight another threatening opponent.

He can say "i wanted to fight pacquiao but he didnt want to do the test." It somehow legitimizes him not fighting pacquiao.

Its a very nefarious yet smart move by mayweather that has backfired. Now more & more boxing scribes are pointing out the hypocrisy & contradictions of golden boy & team mayweather.

It basically gives Mayweather a excuse if he losses & even if Pac beat him & passes all the tests, there will always be that doubt. That is what team mayweather wanted all along.


The fight doesnt get made & Fraudulent jr. gets to save face. He gets to hide behind the extra testing & gets to put blame on Pacquiao.

It is now legitimized to the average schmo, the mainstream fan, the superficial analysis is that Pac is using & ducked the fight with Fraud jr. when in reality & the deeper conclusion is it was Mayweather who was hesitant to get in the ring with Pacquiao.


The hypocrisy of our democracy.

[shadeyfizzle]

Here is the contradiction:

"Earlier this week, the two sides agreed to mediation by retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein. During the mediation, Pacquiao agreed to blood testing up to 24 days before the fight. Mayweather refused and, according to Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer."


Yet hes shown getting blood drawn for Clottey 19 days away?

that's not a contradiction. Just shows how close to a compromise being reached they actually were.

Please learn the proper definition of contradiction burner.

[Horus]

where's the contradiction???

GO TO 1:10-ON

"I will take the test, just not the day before"

just watch the video

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

that's not a contradiction. Just shows how close to a compromise being reached they actually were.

Please learn the proper definition of contradiction burner.

He said he will only give blood 24 days out because it weakens him.

Yet he is caught giving blood 19 days out.

Thats the very definition of contradiction.

[deanrw]

Letterman said it last night. Floyd is very wary about Manny's abilities right now and does not want to fight the current Manny. Floyd is hoping Manny is cheating and is banking on the fact that it will not be the same version of Manny if he fights him.

That measures up as Floyd and his camp are a little afraid of what Manny offers in the ring.

Truth be told. Manny has always been a firecracker in the ring. He has always been hard hitting, fast and relentless. The current Manny is the same thing but now just a smarter and more talented fighter. PEDs do not make a fighter smarter and more talented, they only improve endurance, speed and strength, which Manny always had an abundance of.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

JACK,
There is no edvidence that Manny is juicing, except for circumstantial evidence. Which in any court in America if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.

But, Out of all the questions that many people are now asking about Manny,
the fews question I would really like to see answered is;

Why sue Mayweather, and not Paulie?

Why turned Down 30-40 million dollars when all is required is a random test?
and instead fight for 8 million dollars against somebody who the public doesnt even know or care about??


I can understand How Pacquiao pride might be effected by the recent allegations of him using PED's. As a result I can understand him wanting to fight back by refusing to submit to any test Mayweather suggest he takes.

However,
What I do not understand is his reasons for refusing the test.
I do not understand his reason for sueing Mayweather but not Paulie,Cintron,Campbell. and countless others who accuse of him using PED'S.

I do not understand throwing anyway 40 millions dollars because of a random drug test.


Like I said before we do not have no evidence that he has taken PED's because he has never taken a test that could detect PED's

When he had the chance to prove he was not on PED'S
he deny the test with bogus explanations to find out if he was on PEDS.
Once again I dont think he is on steroids. but PEDS i have my questions.
simply because his refusal to take the test to that would detect PED's.


So IMO, Pacquiao has done this to himself, Not Floyd,Not Me, and not others who now have questions about his career.

There is evidence, circumstantial evidence.

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adj.

1.

Of, relating to, or dependent on circumstances.
2.

Of no primary significance; incidental.
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I would like to know what this circumstantial evidence is horus?

[Glamour Puss]

JACK,
There is no edvidence that Manny is juicing, except for circumstantial evidence. Which in any court in America if argue correctly can get you verdict of guilty.

Which is what?

But, Out of all the questions that many people are now asking about Manny,
the fews question I would really like to see answered is;

Why sue Mayweather, and not Paulie?

I don't think the suits are serious. Its Packys way of telling the Mayweathers to back off.

Why turned Down 30-40 million dollars when all is required is a random test?
and instead fight for 8 million dollars against somebody who the public doesnt even know or care about??

Pac is the hero of Asia. He doesn't need the money. It seems evident that principle and integrity are more important to him. He is not going to let anyone treat him like a criminal. Its understandable.


What would you do if someone asked you to submit to some bull**** that was totally unwarranted?

What Floyd and his dad did to Pac is the equivalent of police pulling black dudes over disproportionately just cuz' they're black.

It ain't right.

[shogunn]

funny how people just throw away these urine tests like they were nothing.


Would any of you take roids for a million dollars, be given the secret super "masking agent", and if you fail the test, get shot in the head?

Are you blood experts really that confident urine doesnt detect anything?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Letterman said it last night. Floyd is very wary about Manny's abilities right now and does not want to fight the current Manny. Floyd is hoping Manny is cheating and is banking on the fact that it will not be the same version of Manny if he fights him.

That measures up as Floyd and his camp are a little afraid of what Manny offers in the ring.

Truth be told. Manny has always been a firecracker in the ring. He has always been hard hitting, fast and relentless. The current Manny is the same thing but now just a smarter and more talented fighter. PEDs do not make a fighter smarter and more talented, they only improve endurance, speed and strength, which Manny always had an abundance of.

Did you just make that up?