Since Pacquiao beat Cottos nuts out of Lampleys mouth, Lampley is on Pacs nuts now.

[savorduhflavor]

once i saw him basically lay down in the cotto fight, i knew manny would be a nightmare for him.


the only chance clottey had was to hurt manny and KO him, b/c he was gonna get "outworked" all night. being that clottey is not a big puncher, i really didn't see him hurting manny.

i thought clottey fought like clottey, and more than anything, it was manny's style that limited clottey. ppl are saying clottey quit, or just tried to survive, but lets give manny more credit.....

he knew the ONLY way clottey would be effective, was when he'd leave openings for clottey to retaliate. so, manny just threw punches all night, and didn't allow clottey too many opportunites.

last night there was not only a difference in class, there was a difference in training, strategy, and prepwork. it showed.

Agreed on all fronts. Manny deserves a ton of credit, he did EXACTLY would I thought he would and should do.

But Clottey never made an adjustment, and I still think that shows he was content with just going the distance. When you're getting shut out, you start taking more risks if you want to win the fight. End of story. Clottey never changed his pace, he never had a sense of urgency. That's on him and shows a lack of desire completely.

[street bully]

Lol...see what i mean? He loved that. And Street is trying to get the attention away from the fact that Clottey was like a woman last night, hiding in his clamshell, afraid to take a shot in the face. He was an embarresment to the sport of boxing. I'll never watch another Clottey fight again.

What a coward and a dissapointment. Pac fought great and Clottey didn't even try to win. He just wanted to get through to the last round. Like was said before in a thread, at least Cotto tried. Anybody Pac's size that opens up and tries is going to get hit, and hit hard.

Clottey was afraid to get hit! Boxers are not supposed to be afraid to take a shot in the face. They are expected to try to win the fight by boxing and throwing punches. They are expected to protect themselves at all times. But C'mon...I fell asleep around the 7-8 round. Woke and and Pac won. Even the undercard ******.

If Clottey fought like a woman, what did Cotto fight like? The double standards are sickening. You say Cotto is a warrior for winning round 1 and then losing everything else and running from round 5-12 before getting stopped, but say Clottey should be embarassed? Also, blocking a shot hurts more than runnning away from one.

I was rooting for Pacquiao but cove the **** on. What you are doing would be like John Ruiz criticizing Michael Spinks for getting stopped in 1 by Tyson.

[fdotorres]

Oh, my god. This **** deserves a reward. The first Puerto Rican to admit this. I feel like I found a treasure case by reading this post.

that's not true. i've seen plenty of rican posters that admit this

[jazluvr]

That what always costs him fights. He just doesn't have a warrior mentality. or a winners determination. i'm done watching him fight. Still can't believe i actually fell asleep during a Pac fight, but it was just like watching Pac his the bag.

[street bully]

Agreed on all fronts. Manny deserves a ton of credit, he did EXACTLY would I thought he would and should do.

But Clottey never made an adjustment, and I still think that shows he was content with just going the distance. When you're getting shut out, you start taking more risks if you want to win the fight. End of story. Clottey never changed his pace, he never had a sense of urgency. That's on him and shows a lack of desire completely.

That's actually it. He misses that "it" factor, which means he can fight on even terms with opponents of his skill level, but against People like Pacquiao it wont work.

[Iceta Lives]

that's not true. i've seen plenty of rican posters that admit this

I guess you're right. But they just say that JMM is better on a P4P level but I've never seen one say that he's got more heart than Cotto. Hearing something like that is just unique to me.

[savorduhflavor]

If Clottey fought like a woman, what did Cotto fight like? The double standards are sickening. You say Cotto is a warrior for winning round 1 and then losing everything else and running from round 5-12 before getting stopped, but say Clottey should be embarassed? Also, blocking a shot hurts more than runnning away from one.

I was rooting for Pacquiao but cove the **** on. What you are doing would be like John Ruiz criticizing Michael Spinks for getting stopped in 1 by Tyson.

Nah man. Clottey fought like way more of a woman. Cotto started running when, physically, he just started getting broken down. When Cotto was fresh he was doing everything he could. You can't even compare the two.

Clottey wasn't getting hurt. He just didn't want to fight. It was ******ed. He was coming forward, sure, but he wasn't throwing any punches.

Like I said earlier, Cotto in freaking retreat mode throws more punches than Clottey does coming forward.

You say Cotto won 1 round...and while that could be true(debatable, I thought he won the 5th clearly), he was COMPETITIVE in the many of the rounds he lost, he was engaging, trying to figure Pac out. Then he got seriously hurt by the 2nd KD in the 4th and Pac started breaking him down.

But Cotto gave it a shot....Clottey didn't change a god damn thing from the 1st to the 12th when all the while he knew he was losing every round.

Clottey should ****ing ashamed of himself.

[fdotorres]

He was too fast, and just threw way too damn much. The windows for countering were not there, and Clottey is a counterpuncher, while Cotto leads. Anyways Pacquiao is an ATG and his WW run has been remarkable.

then he's as one dimensional as cotto, the guy you flame a lot. he never showed any plan B. his corner begged him to mix it up and he openly said "no". we could argue all day about whose style was suited more for pacquiao, but cotto clearly did the better effort between him and clottey

BTW, counter punches are supposed to be punches thrown while a punch is coming to you. clottey waits until punches stop coming to him, THEN he initiates his attack. that isn't a counter puncher, and that's the difference between him and winky. clottey doesn't counter, he just blocks and wait until the coast is clear to throw his own shots. JMM IS a counter puncher, that's why he gave pacquiao hell. floyd should beat him if they ever fought, but at least it'll be very entertaining to watch

[jazluvr]

If Clottey fought like a woman, what did Cotto fight like? The double standards are sickening. You say Cotto is a warrior for winning round 1 and then losing everything else and running from round 5-12 before getting stopped, but say Clottey should be embarassed? Also, blocking a shot hurts more than runnning away from one.

I was rooting for Pacquiao but cove the **** on. What you are doing would be like John Ruiz criticizing Michael Spinks for getting stopped in 1 by Tyson.

I never called Cotto a warrior, Street, believe it or not. And he won the 1st 2 rounds, not 1. And at least he looked good in the 1st 4 rounds and i actually had hope of him winning when he busted Pacs eardrum with a thundering left hook that really shook Pac.

He did a hell of lot more than Clottey did, and anybody with 1/2 a brain in their head can see that. Clottey submitted almost immediately, accepting defeat in the 1st or 2nd round, hiding behind his clamshell, afraid of taking a shot in the face.

He made boxing look bad last night. He just wanted the fight to be over with and take his check after Manny started barraging him. His corner was trying to get him to fight, but he wouldn't. He pussied out big time.

And you know i have made my criticism's of Cotto in the past, and I'm not a Cotto Stan.

[fdotorres]

I guess you're right. But they just say that JMM is better on a P4P level but I've never seen one say that he's got more heart than Cotto. Hearing something like that is just unique to me.

who said he hasn't have more heart than cotto? he's never given up. he went to WW and unlike most people think, FORCED his fight with floyd to go into a UD

with that said, your hate to rican fighters is ******. i've never seen a rican disrespect JMM