Since Pacquiao beat Cottos nuts out of Lampleys mouth, Lampley is on Pacs nuts now.

[street bully]

The bold is clearly true. Marquez is the ****ing boss.

But your analogy only holds true for half the Cotto fight. At least at some point...granted it's kinda sad that it's come to this....

But it's more like.....you have violent exchanges with someone giving your all for a while and when you start to get hurt you run.

Or you get hit and just stay there doing nothing.

I'll take option A.

I saw Clottey doing a bit of work in all the rounds, and still losing basically all of them. He spread his **** out but what Pacquiao would do it make sure he threw nonstop for the last minute of the round nonstop to put the rounds in the bag.

[dcopo1]

i think pac fought like that because he could afford to do so. why tighten your D when your opponent is scared and refuses to engage you? he did the best he could to look impressive

i think pac fought like that because of clotteys D. hatton and cotto don't have the same D therefore it's a smoother ride for pac.

[Guest]

no it isn't. nautralizing your opponent's offense by overwhelming him isn't the same as neutralizing him by blocking, parrying, and slipping his punches

unless you wanna praise margarito's and pwill's defense, since they throw even more punches than pacquiao

he never needed to use his D yesterday

It's not the same sure. But unless somebody stops those 100 plus, they aren't gonna need the d as much.

He didn't need to use his d, precisely because he had too much o and Clottey wasn't quick enough to counter properly or time him, that is very true.

I don't think PWill, Margs, or Pac have particularly good d, but it's not horrible either.

Well sometimes it is. I think Pac probably has better d than Williams and Margs because he's so speedy though sometimes makes fundamental mistakes.

[street bully]

I agree it was a stylistic nightmare. I expected what happened to happen to an extent.

But when Clottey was not hurt, and it got to rounds 7 and on, I mean come on man, this is the biggest stage you've ever been on, step on the ****ing gas. I mean, you're in decent shape, you're not getting beat up too bad, take a risk, try something.

He just never did that, and there was no excuse not to. You don't have to be Paul Williams to throw more then 30 punches a round in the biggest fight of your life, especially when you've already given away the first half of the fight.

Thats the frustrating thing about him. He really never has gassed in a fight, but like I said fights in cruise control. It's too bad he isn't a big puncher, because that style works for guys like Abraham, who thorw even less than he does.

A Cotto rematch would be interesting (I think Foreman beats Cotto).

[street bully]

no it isn't. nautralizing your opponent's offense by overwhelming him isn't the same as neutralizing him by blocking, parrying, and slipping his punches

unless you wanna praise margarito's and pwill's defense, since they throw even more punches than pacquiao

he never needed to use his D yesterday

Williams did not need it against Wright either, since Wright has the same style as Clottey and would only thorw when Williams stopped, which would not happen.

[fdotorres]

It's not the same sure. But unless somebody stops those 100 plus, they aren't gonna need the d as much.

He didn't need to use his d, precisely because he had too much o and Clottey wasn't quick enough to counter properly or time him, that is very true.

I don't think PWill, Margs, or Pac have particularly good d, but it's not horrible either.

Well sometimes it is. I think Pac probably has better d than Williams and Margs because he's so speedy though sometimes makes fundamental mistakes.

i agree with all that. still, if pac fought last night's fight agaisnt marquez, he'd get destroyed. i don't know his game plan for floyd, but i don't see him beating floyd

[Guest]

Thats the frustrating thing about him. He really never has gassed in a fight, but like I said fights in cruise control. It's too bad he isn't a big puncher, because that style works for guys like Abraham, who thorw even less than he does.

A Cotto rematch would be interesting (I think Foreman beats Cotto).

Abraham definitely wins rounds with his d even though he may not land that many shots in a round, but the other guy lands less.

I think people sometimes think AA relies on his power to bail him out, but we know he wins rounds without big shots too.

Yeah Clottey used to gas bad late in fights. I think his cruise control is part of those experiences.

[fdotorres]

Williams did not need it against Wright either, since Wright has the same style as Clottey and would only thorw when Williams stopped, which would not happen.

he did not need it, but he doesn't have it either. martinez tagged him at will because of his lack of defense

[savorduhflavor]

Thats the frustrating thing about him. He really never has gassed in a fight, but like I said fights in cruise control. It's too bad he isn't a big puncher, because that style works for guys like Abraham, who thorw even less than he does.

A Cotto rematch would be interesting (I think Foreman beats Cotto).

Completely agreed. Cause he's a very sharp puncher. If he was a power puncher, then that style could work. Clottey's hands are crazy fast. I don't understand why his speed gets so underrated. But yea I agree that's what bugged me....cause he had no excuse to not throw punches. He didn't look tired or hurt...he just looked weary from the get go.

The Foreman fight concerns me for Cotto, not gonna lie.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Difference with Wright, Abe and Clottey.

Wright is accurate and fast and has a laser jab and throws ALOT.

Abe has one punch KO Power.

Clottey has nothing. He was a punching bag last night.