i want to try something.

[Spray_resistant]

ithanks for your post. and alot of casual fans wont be attracted to floyds style. as good as james toney and pernell you didnt see people who really didnt watch boxing say man i love james toney i love jimmy young i love me some sweet pea. no they loved the oscar the manny the tyson because of their styles. and yeah manny beat hatton at the weight he was best at but hatton was done by then. he was getting slaped around by lacunzo and didnt follow his corners gameplan i mean its not manny fault but its a reaosn why they took the fight. i dont blame anything on manny i just wan the ppl to reconize he isnt all that. 90% of his biggest wins can have an * on it.

and he beat cotto yes at a catchweight and after cotto been mentally broken new trainer with no experience again not manny fault but not the same cotto that was pre antonio.

thats lik saying roy was the same post ruiz as pre ruiz

Hatton is done now and ppl can argue over how good Manny's win over him was all day long, but a highlight real ko like that is not easily erased from fans minds.

Still, the book on Cotto is not written and published yet.

What if Cotto beats Yuri and then goes on to do something meaningful in the sport? Will it then strengthen how meaningful Pac's win over him was?

[ummeed]

i dont even know what that mean

"Fcking Reading All of That"... he wants your balls... bad.

[Rocky!]

one of the lineal was barerra and he wasnt even a champion he was named lineal before the fight lol and erik was done he already lost to zaheir before his rematch with manny he lost to barerra before the first manny fight. he was already becomming wasted. he lost to raheem mannyx2 and then david diaz. u telling me he was still at his best?

Marco beat Erik and Hamed, he was the man at 126, period
I don't care about Erik III, he was shot
thats why I specified Erik II, that win was legit
he wasn't "shot" until after Pac KO'd him
you're just seeing what you want to see
now wins don't count if the defeated fighter wasn't unbeaten?

[mazdaru]

Pacquiao beat the crap out of ledwaba and Pacquiao was brought as a oponent. He beat prime Barrera, he JMM and draw once. I give him credit for the 2nd Morales, but not the third. He beat the best WW of this decade, he beat the lineal JWW champ. ALl those victories are legit.

He has beaten ATG's and a bunch of HFoers. Not to mention all the champions and top contenders.

Its a no contest really in terms of who is greater all time!

lol @ MAB being prime

[mazdaru]

facts hurt.

pacs path to "greatness" has been carefully planned and fabricated

[boxer2k5]

Marco beat Erik and Hamed, he was the man at 126, period
I don't care about Erik III, he was shot
thats why I specified Erik II, that win was legit
he wasn't "shot" until after Pac KO'd him
you're just seeing what you want to see
now wins don't count if the defeated fighter wasn't unbeaten?

im just seeing what i want to see? and it has nothing to do with wins or loses. its how and when you lost. erik everytime he fought manny he was comming off a lost. if your winning and losing back and forth that shows right there where your at in your career.
he lose to barerra then he beats manny he lose to raheem then lose to manny then manny again then diaz. he was shot before the 3rd fight manny jsut took whatever was left in him out.

no you just seeing what you want to see

[boxer2k5]

lol @ MAB being prime

thats whats i was saying mab prime lol why because he beat naseem. thats like saying gatti was prime when he fought floyd because he had some good string of fights and was looking sharp building up to his floyd fight. cmon now. they was saying barerra was done when he fought morales 1. but barerra put up a good fight and beat morales in rematch even tho i felt he lost the rematch and won the first fight. but he wasnt in his prime and like i said was in his 14th year of boxing when he fought manny

[boxer2k5]

facts hurt.

pacs path to "greatness" has been carefully planned and fabricated

word they cant come in here with they myths and rumors. manny never ducked anyone but manny has never been on controll of his career. but bob isnt going to set him up wit anyone unless there is an * there.

kobe bryant and lebron and jordan best ball players in the world i play them 1 on 1 and beat them both. everyone would say wow you beat lebron and kobe and jordan wow your the best. but noone told that person jordan is 45 kobe hand is hurt and lebron ankle broke. but hey i still have their names on my resume.

[Rocky!]

im just seeing what i want to see? and it has nothing to do with wins or loses. its how and when you lost. erik everytime he fought manny he was comming off a lost. if your winning and losing back and forth that shows right there where your at in your career.
he lose to barerra then he beats manny he lose to raheem then lose to manny then manny again then diaz. he was shot before the 3rd fight manny jsut took whatever was left in him out.

no you just seeing what you want to see

can you read?
I said I don't care about Erik III, he was shot
he wasn't shot in the 2nd fight
he was favored to win, despite the Raheem loss
did Raheem deal out a brutal beating that ruined Erik?
he was winning until Pac got to him in the 6th
you tried talking about the damn Diaz-Erik fight before, as a reason the win doesn't count
Pac>Floyd until Floyd beats him, deal with it
you only see what you want to see

[SonOfCuba]

Good points.