Shouldn’t Mayweather be applauded for wanting testing for PEDs?

[ThePunchingBag]

By the way-that same "huge farce" of a fight between Floyd and JMM,would have been glorious if JMM accepted Manny's offer for the trilogy at WW,eh????

No.

JMM belongs nowhere near the WW division.

I'd be very disappointed in Manny if that happened and I'd also call it a farce.

[tesla_power]

Pacs reputation is tarnished by his own doings. He gave Pac the rope, Floyd kicked away the chair.

How was he tarnished of his own doing? The one who gave the rope is the one who did the tarnishing. It is baiting people. Much like a reporter who antagonizes someone with false accusations, then sit down calmly while filming the angry reaction. The public perception is then that someone is guilty.

Floyd should be applauded for wanting the tests but the reasons and the way it was conducted is appalling to say the least.

[tesla_power]

U said exactly nothing.....i outlined a whole bunch of contradictiory statements and actions and your reply was tantamount to that of a 12 year old boy on the school yard.......everything i wrote is true....it happened.....i didn't make it up........

And resorting to petty insults is typically a *******ian tradition......i just did it with more flavour than the majority of the *******s on this forum (not all)

An insult is an insult be it with flavor or not. His reply was logical and you can choose to debate it. But somehow, you believed it was beneath your intelligence. You must be a very proud person.

[damned1974]

So you believe Floyd had every right to come in 2 lbs heavy in a catchweight fight at 144 against a lightweight....

Then you expect him not to get called on that bull**** so that it doesn't happen again.

Asking for that weight penalty was a logical move Floyd should've seen coming.

Demanding ODST for the first time in your career against a man who's never shown any evidence of ped usage is not.

All he had to do was drop it and he'd have the fight.

No-I don't believe it is right for Floyd to weigh in 2 pounds over-but do you think that this weight changed the outcome considering it was skill that beat Marquez-not weight.
In actuality,Marquez was still that confident (and 600,000 dollars richer) that he had a chance at beating Floyd,so he accepted the fight,got his ass outclassed,and made excuses afterwards.Let's be honest-Marquez at any weight would get outshined against Floyd.
I am still curious how you say ANY fighter should see a $10,000,000 penalty coming their way-especially when that is the biggest penalty in history! It was a ploy to detour Floyd from accepting a fight.As far as I am concerned,if one person has a large request,it should be matched by another personal request-it is a fair trade off...

[check hook]

An insult is an insult be it with flavor or not. His reply was logical and you can choose to debate it. But somehow, you believed it was beneath your intelligence. You must be a very proud person.

yes and no.....they say too much pride can kill a man.......

[Allucard]

If Pac didn't make Oscar his *****,

you wouldn't even care.

Be real about it.

But please, do tell me,

what is so good about random testing,

that

Marion Jones was able to win 5 medals?

Very simple. Olympic events have set dates and when Marion won those medals there was no OFF season testing. I think only in 2008 the off season testing really kicked in for those guys.

Now I'm sure Pacquiao is on something. You'd have to be ****** to ignore all the facts. The guy goes from 130 to 147 not keeping but increasing his strength along the way. If he was a big guy draining to make 130 we could understand it but he isn't a Paul Williams per say. He goes up in weight and overpowers WW champions while remaining unhurt from their punches. WOW.

Please find me another history example of someone who isn't particularly tall going up in weight and KOing people left and right, in their late 20's early 30's. There is non. Hearns was a big guy, Robbinson was a big guy, they lost their pop in the later categories as it should happen. I can totally understand why people (not only Mayweather) suspect Pacquiao.

In fact, there was a reason (besides the same promoter) Pacquiao is fighting Clottey. No one wants to fight Clottey, come on! It's not what you think but Clottey can't sell no fight! Pacquiao should be fighting Bradley at 140 or Floyd at 147, or Marquez at either weight. Clottey is harder to sell. The reason why he isn't fighting live opponents is just that people are starting to demand random blood tests from Pacquiao now! After Clottey, who will take the bait?

[check hook]

Just a quick question..........A fighter gets 2 hrs to come down in weight if they come in over at the official weigh in.

So if Floyd weighed in at 148......but susequently went and ran on a treadmill and came back after the 2 hrs and weighed in again at 147...would the penalty apply????

[check hook]

Very simple. Olympic events have set dates and when Marion won those medals there was no OFF season testing. I think only in 2008 the off season testing really kicked in for those guys.

Now I'm sure Pacquiao is on something. You'd have to be ****** to ignore all the facts. The guy goes from 130 to 147 not keeping but increasing his strength along the way. If he was a big guy draining to make 130 we could understand it but he isn't a Paul Williams per say. He goes up in weight and overpowers WW champions while remaining unhurt from their punches. WOW.

Please find me another history example of someone who isn't particularly tall going up in weight and KOing people left and right, in their late 20's early 30's. There is non. Hearns was a big guy, Robbinson was a big guy, they lost their pop in the later categories as it should happen. I can totally understand why people (not only Mayweather) suspect Pacquiao.

In fact, there was a reason (besides the same promoter) Pacquiao is fighting Clottey. No one wants to fight Clottey, come on! It's not what you think but Clottey can't sell no fight! Pacquiao should be fighting Bradley at 140 or Floyd at 147, or Marquez at either weight. Clottey is harder to sell. The reason why he isn't fighting live opponents is just that people are starting to demand random blood tests from Pacquiao now! After Clottey, who will take the bait?

i find it interesting Clottey pulled out of his scheduled bout around the time the fight negotations with Pac v Mayweather were going on......

[ThePunchingBag]

No-I don't believe it is right for Floyd to weigh in 2 pounds over-but do you think that this weight changed the outcome considering it was skill that beat Marquez-not weight.
In actuality,Marquez was still that confident (and 600,000 dollars richer) that he had a chance at beating Floyd,so he accepted the fight,got his ass outclassed,and made excuses afterwards.Let's be honest-Marquez at any weight would get outshined against Floyd.
I am still curious how you say ANY fighter should see a $10,000,000 penalty coming their way-especially when that is the biggest penalty in history! It was a ploy to detour Floyd from accepting a fight.As far as I am concerned,if one person has a large request,it should be matched by another personal request-it is a fair trade off...

I think Mayweather is skilled enough to beat Marquez at any weight and I've posted it many times on these boards before the fight happened.

Still... give the man a chance. No matter how small it may be. By Floyd coming in 2 lbs over the agreed limit, it pretty much killed any tiny chance that Marquez had.

I think Pac's reason for asking what he did was justified.

I don't think Floyd's demands were as justified as Pac's were.

Therefore if Floyd would have dropped his less than justifiable demand, he'd have a fight on his hands and the biggest payday in his life.

That's my take.

[damned1974]

No.

JMM belongs nowhere near the WW division.

I'd be very disappointed in Manny if that happened and I'd also call it a farce.

Fair enough.
Look-the fight "is what it is"-Floyd wanted to fight the number 3 p4p who Manny struggled with,and Floyd made JMM into easy work.It also served well as a return fight to get rid of nearly 2 years of ring-rust.It was never designed to put Floyd as the g.o.a.t. and if memory serves me correctly, didn't JMM call out Floyd? Why didn't Manny?
Even after the mediation was failed,Floyd still was calling out Manny and saying he (Floyd) was optimistic about a fight with Manny,and publicly stating he "wants to beat Manny's punk ass" in his words....
I am unsure how one request as a trade off should be blamed on Floyd-think about it-is it really a request that warranted a refusal? Ask yourself "what is it Manny fights for" (the fair assumption should be for the biggest money he can get,as well as legacy),and then ask yourself if it would be worth refusing over the silly excuses that were doled out from Manny's team....it does not add up.When you want something bad enough,excuses will never get in the way-especially over random blood testing with a 2 week cut off...that is a rather modest request for a "clean" fighter such as Manny...