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    #91
    Originally posted by mrpain81

    I think Khan vs Campbell and Ortiz vs. Alvarado would be a more interesting card and they would save a good amount of money since Campbell won't be asking for Paulie money and Alvarado won't be asking for Campbell money. Win win imo and better fights.
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    • Motofan
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      #92
      Well if this fight doesnt happen maybe he can fight Diaz. He also punches like a ***** which is all Khan wants.

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      • FLYBOY
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        #93
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        Shame Roach disagrees with you, isn't it!

        He said "it's a very, very dangerous fight for Amir," and made it clear that the reward would have to be extremely high before he would be willing to take the risk.

        Maidana is an intense pressure fighter, who knows how to cut the ring off and always finds a way to land some of his punches. Roach knows that, even if you don't. He's a far more talented fighter than Prescott, and Khan's chin and defence have not been tested since the Prescott fight.

        If you think Khan would win easily, you should be one of those showing disgust for the way Khan's team is ducking his mandatory and resorting to bribery to persuade Maidana not to enforce his mandatory for an entire year. If you're right, then there's simply no excuse for that. That behaviour only makes any sense if you're wrong.
        Ok. you have a point. BUT Amir was willing to fight Marquez who (although his style is different to Maidana's) is much better than Maidana and much more dangerous with his experience and intelligence.

        GBP bribed Maidana, But so what? It's a professional sport. Money rules it just like it rules any other sport. Maidana got his HBO dates, good $, an opportunity to be known to the American fans and an opportunity in the future to set up a big fight with Amir.

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        • AddiX
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          #94
          How the hell can GBP promise Amir a mill per fight, fighting guys like Kahn?

          There is a serious problem here.

          HBO needs to man up with GBP and tell them, "hey, wtf are we paying him a million $ for? hes never even fought in this freaking country or on HBO. This isn't a god damn welfare programs, build up your chinny prospects (Ortiz, Kahn) by your damn self. And then well pay these guys big money."

          It's insane that HBO agrees to any of this garbage. 2-3 million dollars for this entire card? No wonder boxing cant find it's way out of the basement.

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            #95
            Originally posted by AddiX
            How the hell can GBP promise Amir a mill per fight, fighting guys like Kahn?

            There is a serious problem here.

            HBO needs to man up with GBP and tell them, "hey, wtf are we paying him a million $ for? hes never even fought in this freaking country or on HBO. This isn't a god damn welfare programs, build up your chinny prospects (Ortiz, Kahn) by your damn self. And then well pay these guys big money."

            It's insane that HBO agrees to any of this garbage. 2-3 million dollars for this entire card? No wonder boxing cant find it's way out of the basement.
            that must've been why Khan signed with GBP... they promised him something they couldn't deliver

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            • Dave Rado
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              #96
              Originally posted by FLYBOY
              GBP bribed Maidana, But so what? It's a professional sport. Money rules it just like it rules any other sport.
              Manchester United can't duck an opponent because they think there's too much risk of losing. Nor can Roger Federer, nor can Usain Bolt, nor can Tiger Woods, nor can The New Orleans Saints. To the extent that happens in boxing, its credibility as a sport is seriously undermined - which is one of the main reasons that boxing, which was once a mainstream sport, is not one any longer. This sort of corrupt dealing is extremely bad for boxing, and anyone who supports it is not a true boxing fan, IMO.

              Money is a factor in all sports, but is not used as an excuse for the champions not to face risky opponents in any sport other than boxing.

              Originally posted by FLYBOY
              BUT Amir was willing to fight Marquez who (although his style is different to Maidana's) is much better than Maidana and much more dangerous with his experience and intelligence.
              Marquez is better P4P, but not at Jnr Welterweight. He looked physically out of his depth even at Lightweight, and much slower than he had looked at Jr Lightweight. At 142, he looked painfully slow, and he seemed to have lost most of his power. And styles make fights. Khan said "Marquez's style is made for me", whereas he knows - because Roach keeps telling him - that Maidana would be dangerous for him, because of his style and his power, and Khan's chin.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 02-18-2010, 10:22 PM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                Manchester United can't duck an opponent because they think there's too much risk of losing. Nor can Roger Federer, nor can Usain Bolt, nor can Tiger Woods, nor can The New Orleans Saints. To the extent that happens in boxing, its credibility as a sport is seriously undermined - which is one of the main reasons that boxing, which was once a mainstream sport, is not one any longer. This sort of corrupt dealing is extremely bad for boxing, and anyone who supports it is not a true boxing fan, IMO.
                The problem there is that the boxing public is so fickle. A guy takes a loss and everyone wants to throw him on the scrap heap, or maybe he cant get a tv date again. The big difference is that if the Saints lose a game, people dont go and sell their season tickets. If Tiger loses a tournament, he doesnt get kicked off the PGA Tour. Those athletes have much more job security than fighters do.

                Maybe if people didnt pile on a fighter the second he takes a loss (he's garbage, overrated, exposed, etc) then maybe these guys would be more willing to take bigger risks like they did in the old days. These days, a fighters entire career can be ruined by one bad night.
                Last edited by OnePunch; 02-18-2010, 10:24 PM.

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                  #98
                  Kahn is going to **** this up for all of the fighters involved. What a douche.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    The problem there is that the boxing public is so fickle. A guy takes a loss and everyone wants to throw him on the scrap heap, or maybe he cant get a tv date again. The big difference is that if the Saints lose a game, people dont go and sell their season tickets. If Tiger loses a tournament, he doesnt get kicked off the PGA Tour. Those athletes have much more job security than fighters do.

                    Maybe if people didnt pile on a fighter the second he takes a loss (he's garbage, overrated, exposed, etc) then maybe these guys would be more willing to take bigger risks like they did in the old days. These days, a fighters entire career can be ruined by one bad night.
                    I think that's hugely over-done. Khan's career wasn't derailed by the Prescott loss, nor was Ortiz's career by the loss to Maidana. Maidana's career wasn't derailed by the Kotelnik loss. Hopkins' career didn't suffer after his loss to Jones. Mosley's losses to Forrest and Winky and Cotto didn't stop him from getting more big fights. De La Hoya's losses didn't harm his career,

                    If you're any good, you can lose and come back. This myth that fighters these days don't get a second chance if they lose is just that, a myth.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 02-18-2010, 10:40 PM.

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                    • daggum
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by OnePunch
                      The problem there is that the boxing public is so fickle. A guy takes a loss and everyone wants to throw him on the scrap heap, or maybe he cant get a tv date again. The big difference is that if the Saints lose a game, people dont go and sell their season tickets. If Tiger loses a tournament, he doesnt get kicked off the PGA Tour. Those athletes have much more job security than fighters do.

                      Maybe if people didnt pile on a fighter the second he takes a loss (he's garbage, overrated, exposed, etc) then maybe these guys would be more willing to take bigger risks like they did in the old days. These days, a fighters entire career can be ruined by one bad night.
                      look how many chances nate no contest man campbell got. he got knocked out by peden twice and still got more chances. he got beaten by fringe contenders lorenzo and hlaatschwayo and still got more chances. he pretended to be blind and quit against bradley and is still getting more chances to this day. and yet the oblivious fool keeps complaining.

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