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  • The Pretender
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    #31
    Ruiz 5-1 for heavyweight title defenses. He's a champ. Against great fighters too.

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    • ObtuseBoxer
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      #32
      more like 4 wins 4 lost...Ruiz is the king of steroids and he still sucks.

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      • SnoopySmurf
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        #33
        Originally posted by neils7147933
        Point is, no one stands out right now in the heavyweight division. Why pick on one when all the top contenders are weak in terms of quality wins?
        Because Ruiz is the least skilled fighter out there. He wins by clinching, rabbit punching, pretending to be hurt by a crotch shot and rolling around waiting for a DQ. Sugar Ray Robinson, if he were still alive today, would laugh if someone said Ruiz is a great champion.

        Here's some facts : Ruiz would lose to both Toney and Jones rematch. He will lose Tyson and Tua. He will lose to Byrd coz he's fleet footed and actually has skills, unlike Ruiz.

        Who has Ruiz beaten? Are they great? No. Only Holyfield....war torn and old, is his best win and it's a hollow victory at best. Ruiz is a pretender, a wrestler and a bum.
        Last edited by SnoopySmurf; 05-13-2005, 07:31 AM.

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        • neils7147933
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          #34
          Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
          Because Ruiz is the least skilled fighter out there. He wins by clinching, rabbit punching, pretending to be hurt by a crotch shot and rolling around waiting for a DQ. Sugar Ray Robinson, if her were still alive today, would laugh if someone said Ruiz is a great champion.

          Here's some facts : Ruiz would lose to both Toney and Jones rematch. He will lose Tyson and Tua. He will lose to Byrd coz he's fleet footed and actually has skills, unlike Ruiz.

          Who has Ruiz beaten? Are they great? No. Only Holyfield....war torn and old, is his best win and it's a hollow victory at best. Ruiz is a pretender, a wrestler and a bum.
          what's funny is, a lot of people give Rahman a real chance to beat Vitali - and Ruiz beat Rahman.

          A lot of people are picking Golota to beat Brewster. And Ruiz beat Rahman.

          I guess we can't continue with ObtuseFan since apparently he has been banned...

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          • SnoopySmurf
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            #35
            Originally posted by neils7147933
            what's funny is, a lot of people give Rahman a real chance to beat Vitali - and Ruiz beat Rahman.

            A lot of people are picking Golota to beat Brewster. And Ruiz beat Rahman.

            I guess we can't continue with ObtuseFan since apparently he has been banned...
            The Rahman fight was a punch and clinch fest. It was an atrocious fight with very littl action. Golota beat Ruiz (put him down twice) but inexplicably lost on points. Oquendo? Who the hell has he beaten? Brewster didn't beat a Klitchko, Klitchko beat himself by not have an sort of stamina. Crikey, he barely managed a draw against the "Touch of Sleep" guy coz he was out of breath again. yet he's still leagues ahead of Ruiz as far as fighting skills go.

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            • guru
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              #36
              here's my thing with ruiz, he doesn't hold a win over anybody that was considered to be one of the top heavies at the time he fought him... fres, golota, rahman, holy, none of them were thought to be one of the best heavies when ruiz faced them.... the 3 times he did face top flight challenegs, he lost(rj,toney,tua)... how come ruiz has not unified with byrd for as long as they've both been champs?? why hasn't he fought lewis, vk, wlad, ike, mccline or sanders when they were all considered to be one of the top guys?

              to punctuate my point, ruiz's toughest 3 challenges, the 3 times ruiz was the biggest underdog, he lost and lost badly, it wasnt even close, which clearly shows he's not the best heavy....

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              • SnoopySmurf
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                #37
                Originally posted by guru
                why hasn't he fought lewis, vk, wlad, ike, mccline or sanders when they were all considered to be one of the top guys?

                to punctuate my point, ruiz's toughest 3 challenges, the 3 times ruiz was the biggest underdog, he lost and lost badly, it wasnt even close, which clearly shows he's not the best heavy....
                L. Lewis would have proven nothing by beating Ruiz. It would have been a lose-lose situation in that people would have criticized him for picking an easy opponent and criticized the fight for being a complete bore. L. Lewis is an opportunistic fighter, he will not leave himself vulnerable by being aggressive so he will stand tall and jab all night if he has to. He's not the most exciting fighter either.

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                • Warden11
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                  #38
                  Don't get me wrong I hate Ruiz for his boring stlye, but it amazes me how everybody jumps all over Ruiz for not being a legitament top ranked Heavyweight yet theres guys like Hasim Rahman who everybody thinks is a great heavyweight. Rahman has ONE win against any top fighter. Maybe people should start discussing how Rahman after going winless in 4 straight fights after winning the title is next in line for a title shot.Who has he beaten since losing 4 in a row? Alfred Cole, Mario Cawley,Rob Calloway,Terrence Lewis,Kali Meehan. and that makes you the number 1 contender?

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                  • guru
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                    #39
                    yeah, i agree rahman is overrated, that's why VK would have killed him.... i'm not sure he beats that other bum barrett

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                    • SnoopySmurf
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Warden11
                      Don't get me wrong I hate Ruiz for his boring stlye, but it amazes me how everybody jumps all over Ruiz for not being a legitament top ranked Heavyweight yet theres guys like Hasim Rahman who everybody thinks is a great heavyweight. Rahman has ONE win against any top fighter. Maybe people should start discussing how Rahman after going winless in 4 straight fights after winning the title is next in line for a title shot.Who has he beaten since losing 4 in a row? Alfred Cole, Mario Cawley,Rob Calloway,Terrence Lewis,Kali Meehan. and that makes you the number 1 contender?
                      Coz he's not the champ? No one's dis*****g his debatable "lucky punch" over L. Lewis.

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