Ruiz 5-1 for heavyweight title defenses. He's a champ. Against great fighters too.
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Originally posted by neils7147933Point is, no one stands out right now in the heavyweight division. Why pick on one when all the top contenders are weak in terms of quality wins?
Here's some facts : Ruiz would lose to both Toney and Jones rematch. He will lose Tyson and Tua. He will lose to Byrd coz he's fleet footed and actually has skills, unlike Ruiz.
Who has Ruiz beaten? Are they great? No. Only Holyfield....war torn and old, is his best win and it's a hollow victory at best. Ruiz is a pretender, a wrestler and a bum.Last edited by SnoopySmurf; 05-13-2005, 07:31 AM.
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Originally posted by SnoopySmurfBecause Ruiz is the least skilled fighter out there. He wins by clinching, rabbit punching, pretending to be hurt by a crotch shot and rolling around waiting for a DQ. Sugar Ray Robinson, if her were still alive today, would laugh if someone said Ruiz is a great champion.
Here's some facts : Ruiz would lose to both Toney and Jones rematch. He will lose Tyson and Tua. He will lose to Byrd coz he's fleet footed and actually has skills, unlike Ruiz.
Who has Ruiz beaten? Are they great? No. Only Holyfield....war torn and old, is his best win and it's a hollow victory at best. Ruiz is a pretender, a wrestler and a bum.
A lot of people are picking Golota to beat Brewster. And Ruiz beat Rahman.
I guess we can't continue with ObtuseFan since apparently he has been banned...
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Originally posted by neils7147933what's funny is, a lot of people give Rahman a real chance to beat Vitali - and Ruiz beat Rahman.
A lot of people are picking Golota to beat Brewster. And Ruiz beat Rahman.
I guess we can't continue with ObtuseFan since apparently he has been banned...
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here's my thing with ruiz, he doesn't hold a win over anybody that was considered to be one of the top heavies at the time he fought him... fres, golota, rahman, holy, none of them were thought to be one of the best heavies when ruiz faced them.... the 3 times he did face top flight challenegs, he lost(rj,toney,tua)... how come ruiz has not unified with byrd for as long as they've both been champs?? why hasn't he fought lewis, vk, wlad, ike, mccline or sanders when they were all considered to be one of the top guys?
to punctuate my point, ruiz's toughest 3 challenges, the 3 times ruiz was the biggest underdog, he lost and lost badly, it wasnt even close, which clearly shows he's not the best heavy....
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Originally posted by guruwhy hasn't he fought lewis, vk, wlad, ike, mccline or sanders when they were all considered to be one of the top guys?
to punctuate my point, ruiz's toughest 3 challenges, the 3 times ruiz was the biggest underdog, he lost and lost badly, it wasnt even close, which clearly shows he's not the best heavy....
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Don't get me wrong I hate Ruiz for his boring stlye, but it amazes me how everybody jumps all over Ruiz for not being a legitament top ranked Heavyweight yet theres guys like Hasim Rahman who everybody thinks is a great heavyweight. Rahman has ONE win against any top fighter. Maybe people should start discussing how Rahman after going winless in 4 straight fights after winning the title is next in line for a title shot.Who has he beaten since losing 4 in a row? Alfred Cole, Mario Cawley,Rob Calloway,Terrence Lewis,Kali Meehan. and that makes you the number 1 contender?
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Originally posted by Warden11Don't get me wrong I hate Ruiz for his boring stlye, but it amazes me how everybody jumps all over Ruiz for not being a legitament top ranked Heavyweight yet theres guys like Hasim Rahman who everybody thinks is a great heavyweight. Rahman has ONE win against any top fighter. Maybe people should start discussing how Rahman after going winless in 4 straight fights after winning the title is next in line for a title shot.Who has he beaten since losing 4 in a row? Alfred Cole, Mario Cawley,Rob Calloway,Terrence Lewis,Kali Meehan. and that makes you the number 1 contender?
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