Ruiz hall of shame

[ObtuseBoxer]

Tyson and Lewis never held the WBO belt...If a boxer holds this belt and is considered the "champ" he also holds more legit belts. The WBO belt may be a legit belt some day, but as of now it's a distant fourth.As far as who is better or worse in the heavyweight division...well thats not what this thread is about. Feel free to start you're owne thread about that topic.

[neils7147933]

We will start with Johns first bid at the WBA title.
1. 2000-08 lost to a shot 37 and 10 month old Holyfield by UD
2. 2001-03 A win over a 38 year old shot Holy.
3. 2001-12 a DRAW to a very shot Holy..who was 39 years old.
4. 2002-07 a win by DQ in a very close fight.
5. 2003-03 a loss to a former middleweight ( 2x only in history)
6. 2003-12 a win over Rahman ( one fight and he is given back his belt).
7. 2004-04 a win over Oquendo who is 2-2 in his last 4.
8.2004-11 a win over Golota ( 114-111, 114-111, 113-112) Ruiz is knocked down 2x in the second and deducted 1 pt in the 4 th...114-111 ??????
9. 2005-04 a UD loss to Toney...then changed to NC...
This is the record of a champ?.....It is no wonder the public is ignoring the heavyweight division with losers like Ruiz as the title holders.

this is your first post...

[neils7147933]

Tyson and Lewis never held the WBO belt...If a boxer holds this belt and is considered the "champ" he also holds more legit belts. The WBO belt may be a legit belt some day, but as of now it's a distant fourth.As far as who is better or worse in the heavyweight division...well thats not what this thread is about. Feel free to start you're owne thread about that topic.

...then you do this one

If it doesn't include the other champions, then what is it about?

[neils7147933]

How can you say Ruiz is the worst without comparing him to the others?

[The Pretender]

When you list the top fighters beat for each champ that puts much in perspective. I am impressed that Byrd defeated Tua, I'd like to watch that bout someday. I didn't realize Vitali's roster was so padded with nobodies. You're right Wlad's list is pretty impressive. Brewster is yet to be proven however.

Not sure if I agree Botha is impressive since he was blown up after his performance against a shot Tyson.

[ObtuseBoxer]

Ok one more time, this post is called " Ruiz hall of shame"...all Im saying ( and Im new to this fourm so mabey Im reiterating old posts) is that Ruiz has fought 9x for, or defending and has only won 4 out of 9 fights and thats is a sad example of a "champ".

[neils7147933]

Ok one more time, this post is called " Ruiz hall of shame"...all Im saying ( and Im new to this fourm so mabey Im reiterating old posts) is that Ruiz has fought 9x for, or defending and has only won 4 out of 9 fights and thats is a sad example of a "champ".

I expect to see a similar one if Golota wins then, because his record in title fights is atrocious

[neils7147933]

also he won 5 fights, and the ninth one isn't official in the books. That makes 5/8...

[neils7147933]

Tyson and Lewis never held the WBO belt...If a boxer holds this belt and is considered the "champ" he also holds more legit belts. The WBO belt may be a legit belt some day, but as of now it's a distant fourth.As far as who is better or worse in the heavyweight division...well thats not what this thread is about. Feel free to start you're owne thread about that topic.

*********.com would disagree with you on this regarding Joe Calzaghe at 168

[ObtuseBoxer]

I have posted 1 thread, and you and the devils advocate have attacked me. Golota and his fight record is another story.You can post another thread about that if you want. As I have said many times this thread is just about Ruiz and his sad record.